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From Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr>
Subject Re: Maven 3.2.6
Date Wed, 04 Mar 2015 07:18:09 GMT
MNG-5778 created (quick and dirty: content to be improved with links to ML, 
key feature Jira issues)

and of course, to be fixed by somebody: I don't have time at the moment, but 
I'll do it later if nobody beats me at it

Regards,

Hervé

Le mercredi 4 mars 2015 07:00:07 Anders Hammar a écrit :
> So it's not going to be v3.3.0?
> 
> /Anders (mobile)
> 
> Den 4 mar 2015 06:31 skrev "Jason van Zyl" <jason@takari.io>:
> > Someone going to release Wagon 2.9-SNAPSHOT or can I roll it back to 2.8
> > for the 3.2.6 release?
> > 
> > On Mar 3, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarbaise@gmx.de>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Jason,
> > > 
> > > at the moment i have 09:00 o'clock pm ...(21:00 o'clock) CET...
> > > 
> > > I'm available ....
> > > 
> > > On 3/3/15 4:15 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > >> Today in the afternoon here I can be around after 20h. Yesterday didn't
> > 
> > work. Karl-Heinz what's your schedule looking like?
> > 
> > >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:14 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.fr>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > >>> I should be there (after 20h, Paris time)
> > >>> I'd like to improve docs on new features (like extensions model)
> > >>> 
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> 
> > >>> Hervé
> > >>> 
> > >>> Le dimanche 1 mars 2015 15:38:32 Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> > >>>> We can just sync up in IRC and pop in a hangout if people are
> > 
> > interested.
> > 
> > >>>> I'll sift through JIRA in the morning. I'm in California so I'll try
> > 
> > to get
> > 
> > >>>> up a bit earlier so it's not the end of your day by the time we get
> > 
> > around
> > 
> > >>>> to meeting.
> > >>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:17 PM, Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarbaise@gmx.de>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi Jason,
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> are those changes you made already public in branches? So it's
> > 
> > possible to
> > 
> > >>>>> take a look into it...
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> And a hangout tomorrow sounds great...I'm interested in...
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Kind regards
> > >>>>> Karl Heinz
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> On 3/1/15 10:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> I'm done rebasing and merging my changes into master here locally.
> > 
> > But I
> > 
> > >>>>>> still have a day or two of testing and a day of writing
> > 
> > documentation.
> > 
> > >>>>>> There are also a couple APIs I'm not super happy with so I might
> > 
> > alter
> > 
> > >>>>>> those slightly before the final release.
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> So if anyone wants to jump in a hangout tomorrow to chat about
> > 
> > other bits
> > 
> > >>>>>> we want to try and do for 3.3.0 I'm game. I also need to go through
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > >>>>>> find all references to 3.2.6 and change them to 3.3.0. There are a
> > 
> > few
> > 
> > >>>>>> ITs that depend directly on 3.2.6-SNAPSHOT so all that needs to be
> > >>>>>> looked at as well.
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> So I think we're looking at a few more days if anyone wants to get
> > 
> > in
> > 
> > >>>>>> small fixes.>>
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:37 AM, Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Great, thanks. I'm just working away on the work I'd like to get
> > 
> > in. So
> > 
> > >>>>>>> tentatively hope to be done this weekend.>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:03 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> > 
> > andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> > 
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> I'm done with my changes (documented in MNG-5776), and it seems
> > 
> > to work
> > 
> > >>>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>> no at least the java process is started with the right parameters
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > >>>>>>>> no
> > >>>>>>>> script variables leak out into the cmd console... ;-)
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> @Igor: thanks for checking up, I overlooked your second commit
> > 
> > with the
> > 
> > >>>>>>>> change of the VM-argument name.
> > >>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>> 2015-02-26 18:07 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io>:
> > >>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> > 
> > andreas.gudian@gmail.com>
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> I can handle that, but not before the weekend.
> > >>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> No dire rush on my side and I have two feature branches to merge
> > >>>>>>>>> anyway so
> > >>>>>>>>> take your time. Happy to have the help.
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows
> > 
> > versions
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the
> > 
> > bat
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>> files
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> the next minor release?
> > >>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME
> > 
> > anyway
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>> ;-).
> > >>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>> Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar :
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <
> > 
> > anders@hammar.net
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that
> > 
> > are not
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> based
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> no
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped
> > 
> > win
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 9x/Me
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the
> > 
> > System
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Requirements (both on-line and in distro).
> > >>>>>>>>>>> And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release
> > 
> > notes.
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK
> > 
> > 1.7
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> requires a
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> minimum of Windows Vista [1].
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3
> > 
> > [2].
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > 
> > http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> > 
> > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>> java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/
> > 
> > hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.ht
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>> ml>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Anders
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <jason@takari.io
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> andreas.gudian@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the
> > 
> > patch
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> should
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translatable.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andreas
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <
> > 
> > igor@ifedorenko.com
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory
> > 
> > that
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true"
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> multi-module
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config
> > 
> > file is
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> present
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use
> > 
> > its
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> content
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> environment
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> variable.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make
> > 
> > similar
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> change
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > 
> > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h=
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that
> > 
> > limits
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Unix-only?  Knowing this would help people determine
> > 
> > what
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort needed to solve the problem.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert Patrick <robert.patrick@oracle.com
> > 
> > <javascript:;>
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP, Oracle Corporation
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300      Office: +1.972.963.2872
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA           Mobile: +1.469.556.9450
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@takari.io
> > 
> > <javascript:;>
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>]
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Maven Developers List
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> aheritier@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a
> > 
> > 3.3.0
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few
> > 
> > others
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> far
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no
> > 
> > time
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand why
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noone could help Igor on this ?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is
> > 
> > still a
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For projects that require this and document specific
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> requirements
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs
> > 
> > 8gb to
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> run
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation
> > 
> > they
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> run
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it
> > 
> > out
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there
> > 
> > isn't a
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> single
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maven
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same
> > 
> > capabilities
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the
> > 
> > feature
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> going
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the people it can benefit.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know
> > 
> > Windows,
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> don't
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about
> > 
> > gradual
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> improvement.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows
> > 
> > users that
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> help.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> was
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not
> > 
> > being
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> able
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen
> > 
> > JANSI
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> working
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows for years.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> mark@talios.com <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.3.0
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced....
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes!
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark Derricutt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/talios
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype :
> > >>>>>>>>>>> aheritier
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from
> > 
> > concrete
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> examples.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on
> > 
> > paper
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> without
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to
> > 
> > failure. No
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> one
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop
> > 
> > it by
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> looking
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> you
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look at,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the more general your framework will be.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;> For
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > 
> > <javascript:;>
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> > dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses!
> > 
> > Difficult
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> maybe,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> or
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> -
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my phone
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> the course of true love never did run smooth ...
> > >>>>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
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> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> -- Shakespeare
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
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> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>  -- Shakespeare
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>> -
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> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Jason
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> Jason van Zyl
> > >>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Be not afraid of growing slowly, be only afraid of standing still.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> -- Chinese Proverb
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
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> > >> 
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> 
> > >> Jason
> > >> 
> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Jason van Zyl
> > >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > >> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >> 
> > >> A master in the art of living draws no sharp distinction between his
> > 
> > work and his play; his labor and his leisure; his mind and his body; his
> > education and his recreation. He hardly knows which is which. He simply
> > pursues his vision of excellence through whatever he is doing, and leaves
> > others to determine whether he is working or playing. To himself, he
> > always
> > appears to be doing both.
> > 
> > >>   -- François-René de Chateaubriand
> > >> 
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> > > --
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> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Jason
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > Jason van Zyl
> > Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > the course of true love never did run smooth ...
> > 
> >  -- Shakespeare
> > 
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