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Subject: Re: Incremental build API
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 21:10:16 -0700
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On Mar 25, 2014, at 7:31 PM, Herv=E9 BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.fr> =
wrote:

> Hi Jason,
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> Interesting.
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> What is the plan about org.sonatype.plexus:plexus-build-api already =
integrated=20
> in some plugins?
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We consider it deficient for properly tracking stale outputs and being =
fine-grained enough to make an incremental compiler. We likely won't be =
developing that API any further but we'll continue to support that API =
in M2E.

> Given the expected large diffusion of this API, wouldn't it be wise to =
put it=20
> at Apache?
> or Eclipse?
> (I won't rehash previous discussions about freedom and preferences =
from each=20
> people)

We may in the future, but it is being developed for a customer and will =
likely remain in a high degree of flux. Our highest priority is getting =
it all working and Github is the easiest place to develop for now.

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> Regards,
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> Herv=E9
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> Le mardi 25 mars 2014 10:43:57 Jason van Zyl a =E9crit :
>> Hi,
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>> For those who are interested in incremental builds we, at Takari, =
have
>> released a general purpose incremental build API with an initial =
focus on
>> Maven. We've created a short, high-level description of the =
framework[1]
>> and we've opened up our Git repository with the code[2]. We also have =
a
>> some demos that people can look at[3]. We are, and have been, running =
this
>> code in production for a few months but it is still a work in =
progress. We
>> have implemented a Maven lifecycle that integrates this API but we've =
just
>> started using it ourselves. We will open this lifecycle up shortly =
for
>> people to try but for now, if you're interested in incremental builds =
take
>> a look and let us know what you think!
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>> A note to those interested that the use of the API in Maven requires =
3.2.1+.
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>> [1]: http://takari.io/2014/03/25/incremental-build.html
>> [2]: https://github.com/takari/io.takari.incrementalbuild
>> [3]:
>> =
https://github.com/takari/io.takari.incrementalbuild/tree/master/increment=
a
>> lbuild/src/test/java/io/takari/incremental/demo
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>> Thanks,
>>=20
>> Jason
>>=20
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>=20
>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete examples.
>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper without
>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No one
>> is that smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by
>> looking at the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more =
examples
>> you look at, the more general your framework will be.
>>=20
>>  -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving Frameworks
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Thanks,

Jason

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Jason van Zyl
Founder,  Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
http://twitter.com/takari_io
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