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From Jason van Zyl <>
Subject Re: Further cleanup of Builders (extension of MNG-5575)
Date Thu, 06 Feb 2014 20:48:15 GMT
If you're not running in parallel mode you will be fine. If you are then right now you can
use the new method introduced in the AbstractMavenLifecycleParticipant:

This is what I'm using right now for my deploy-at-end logic, but collectively we need to refine
Maven's overall lifecycle as having normal plugins being capable of executing before/after
the actual build would be useful. Right now you have to create an AbstractMavenLifecycleParticipant
and use the before/after methods there. I don't think this is ideal but it's in the public
API now so it will stay there for a long time if you need something now.

On Feb 6, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Tamás Cservenák <> wrote:

> Jason,
> a bit off topic, but you mention that  "if last reactorProject" type logic
> breaks badly in parallel mode.
> Any pointers how to fix/replace it?
> Thanks,
> ~t~
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Jason van Zyl <> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I made a first pass at coalescing the logic for a specific way to build
>> (single threaded, multi threaded, weave) into its own implementation but
>> there is still much cleanup to be done. This was pure refactoring and there
>> isn't much functional change aside from adding a command line parameter to
>> specify the id of a specific builder if you have your own implementation.
>> I'm using this capability for an aggressive mode of parallelization and
>> while that works the core is still a bit of a mess, and the signature for a
>> Builder still isn't very nice. It should ultimately become:
>> session );
>> or if we ultimately make the session immutable (which would be nice
>> because in any parallel mode it has to be cloned for safety which is
>> expensive)
>> session, mutableDataThatCanPotentiallyBeSharedBetweenProjects
>> )
>> Right now the weave mode code has been conflated into much of the other
>> code and it should be contained to its implementation. Ideally a builder
>> gets the projects to build and the task segments to execute (clean install)
>> and the rest is up to the implementation. All scheduling information,
>> specific metrics, particulars about the order of execution should all be
>> local to the implementation. Now that there is a clean spot at the end of
>> the build that you can attach to the ordering of execution that occurs in a
>> Builder won't affect code that takes advantage of this. Though code using
>> the "if last reactorProject" type logic need to be change as that breaks
>> badly in parallel mode. The projects to built are already stored in the
>> session, we can probably store the task segments there as well to try and
>> reduce the signature of a Builder.
>> I would like to start the next phase by removing the weave mode code. I
>> don't think it's really a viable model for execution, and even if it was a
>> cleaner implementation can be made but I don't think anyone is really using
>> it to be honest. If your projects are modularized properly you will be
>> rewarded in any parallel mode. I think the weave mode would just encourage
>> poor structuring and ultimately not much gain because even if you can move
>> a little bit ahead in the build and do a few segments in a few more
>> projects you're still going to get blocked by the critical path and if you
>> don't clean that up you're screwed anyway. The second you clean that up any
>> parallelized mode you will be rewarded and the complexity of the weave mode
>> for possibly a slight gain is not worth it.
>> At any rate there is a lot more cleanup to do but I would like to start by
>> removing the weave mode. Really this is up to Kristian, but it will help me
>> greatly clean up the rest of the code.
>> Thanks,
>> Jason
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> First, the taking in of scattered particulars under one Idea,
>> so that everyone understands what is being talked about ... Second,
>> the separation of the Idea into parts, by dividing it at the joints,
>> as nature directs, not breaking any limb in half as a bad carver might.
>>  -- Plato, Phaedrus (Notes on the Synthesis of Form by C. Alexander)



Jason van Zyl
Founder,  Apache Maven

happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will
elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come
and sit softly on your shoulder ...

-- Thoreau 

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