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From Jason van Zyl <>
Subject Re: Logging
Date Sun, 09 Dec 2012 15:17:50 GMT
I agree. I don't believe it's reasonable path to pick an immature library for the core given
the existence of Logback. 

Arnaud, I believe you felt the same way?

I honestly gave SLF4J Simple a good run and pushed it with Ceki to make it do more than originally
intended but I don't think it makes sense to push anymore. 

If other committers have an opinion let's please get this sorted out. 

On Dec 9, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Kristian Rosenvold <> wrote:

> 2012/12/9 Olivier Lamy <>:
>> Perso I'm fine using log4j2.
>> I use the branch I pushed for some weeks now and I'm happy.
>> Log4j2 has quickly added a feature I needed and release it.
>> Furthermore I'm fine working with an Apache community in case of any
>> issue we could have.
> I'm not entirely sure I follow where this discussion is actually
> going,  but I'm firmly opposed
> to including a brand new logging framework as default in m3.
> Kristian
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Jason van Zyl
Founder & CTO, Sonatype
Founder,  Apache Maven

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