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From Jason van Zyl <ja...@tesla.io>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Maven 3.1.0
Date Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:35:02 GMT
Note that I wasn't in favour of calling this 3.1.x. There are no user facing features per se
but it is an important release, I believe, architecturally.

I think it's more important to get the momentum back. We were once releasing every six weeks
and getting that swing back gets us more features for users. But I would be leery of trying
to jam in a bunch user features when we have lost that momentum. There are still 700 or so
bugs in JIRA, we lost one of the most important testing facilities in the embedded ITs, and
I believe the ITs setup is generally flaky. I don't believe it's wise to try to provide higher
level visibility in the form of new features when we have some lower level problems. Not releasing
for 11 months is rather emblematic of that.

I, at the very least, plan to try and push out two or three more releases on a 6 week schedule.
 With a primary focus on making the ITs run in less than a minute, by whatever means necessary
and trying to drive the issue count down.

On Nov 28, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Arnaud Héritier <aheritier@gmail.com> wrote:

> +0
> I found no technical regression but I see really few interest in this
> release for now.
> It is a minor version (due to some technical changes like in 3.0) while
> there are only few bug fixes and nothing new interesting for end users.
> I'm not against bug fixes releases but in that case we may have tried to at
> least include something more interesting for end users (like the colored
> console from olamy's branch -
> https://github.com/aheritier/maven-3/tree/log4j2 - or to fix some real
> annoying issues like aether rejecting artifacts from the local repository
> when we change the mirror id in settings or when a remote repo isn't
> available anymore - like when you move artifacts betweens staging repos).
> It's dead to justify this release in the name of the "release early,
> release often strategy" after 11 months thus we may have waited more weeks
> to have something more interesting.
> Thus nothing against it, but nothing in favor of it and I find that sad for
> end-users.
> 
> But anyway, thx for the release and to all people involved in it.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Arnaud
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Tony Chemit <chemit@codelutin.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:24:00 -0800
>> Jason van Zyl <jason@tesla.io> wrote:
>> 
>> +1 (nb)
>> 
>> Works fine on our projects (nuiton.org, chorem.org) and also on some
>> codehaus mojo.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> tony.
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Here is a link to Jira with 30 issues resolved:
>>> 
>> https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&version=18967
>>> 
>>> Staging repo:
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-073/
>>> 
>>> The distributable binaries and sources for testing can be found here:
>>> 
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-073/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.1.0/
>>> 
>>> Specifically the zip, tarball, and source archives can be found here:
>>> 
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-073/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.1.0/apache-maven-3.1.0-bin.zip
>>> 
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-073/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.1.0/apache-maven-3.1.0-bin.tar.gz
>>> 
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-073/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.1.0/apache-maven-3.1.0-src.zip
>>> 
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-073/org/apache/maven/apache-maven/3.1.0/apache-maven-3.1.0-src.tar.gz
>>> 
>>> Staging site:
>>> http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl/staged-sites/ref/3.1.0
>>> 
>>> The documentation specifically for this release pertains to JSR330 and
>> SLF4J-based logging:
>>> http://maven.apache.org/maven-jsr330.html
>>> http://maven.apache.org/maven-logging.html
>>> 
>>> Vote open for 72 hours.
>>> 
>>> [ ] +1
>>> [ ] +0
>>> [ ] -1
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> Jason van Zyl
>>> Founder & CTO, Sonatype
>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete examples.
>>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper without
>>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No one
>>> is that smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by
>>> looking at the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more examples
>>> you look at, the more general your framework will be.
>>> 
>>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving Frameworks
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
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> -----
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Thanks,

Jason

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Jason van Zyl
Founder & CTO, Sonatype
Founder,  Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
---------------------------------------------------------

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