Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-maven-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 72121 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2011 16:04:26 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Jan 2011 16:04:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 57749 invoked by uid 500); 26 Jan 2011 16:04:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-maven-dev-archive@maven.apache.org Received: (qmail 56989 invoked by uid 500); 26 Jan 2011 16:04:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@maven.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Maven Developers List" Reply-To: "Maven Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@maven.apache.org Received: (qmail 56976 invoked by uid 99); 26 Jan 2011 16:04:23 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:04:23 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of gcjtmd-turbine-maven-dev-759@m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.12 as permitted sender) Received: from [80.91.229.12] (HELO lo.gmane.org) (80.91.229.12) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:04:15 +0000 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pi7qb-00062S-Tc for dev@maven.apache.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:03:53 +0100 Received: from 91.182.88.10 ([91.182.88.10]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:03:53 +0100 Received: from ge0ffrey.spam by 91.182.88.10 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:03:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: dev@maven.apache.org From: Geoffrey De Smet Subject: Re: '+1' vs 'I agree' Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:03:41 +0100 Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <4D40092D.7070201@apache.org> <4D403C77.7020302@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 91.182.88.10 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 In-Reply-To: <4D403C77.7020302@redhat.com> For me the difference between +1 "I agree" and +0 "I don't care" is relevant. Especially if you're fixing a problem, but your solution isn't 100% perfect, it's interesting to know if people are daily annoyed by this problem or don't care. If you see many +1's, there might be even just cause to ignore a single -1 :) Op 26-01-11 16:23, Paul Gier schreef: > I would even go further and say that if it's not a vote, a +1 or "I > agree" by themselves don't really add to the conversation. In general, > no response means either "I agree" or "I don't care enough to respond, > so do what you want". If a proposal or discussion item is put forward, > it's normally safe to assume that unless someone speaks up, people are > ok with it. So at a minimum for non-vote items, I would prefer "I agree > because...", or "I disagree because...". > > > On 01/26/2011 05:44 AM, Lukas Theussl wrote: >> This may seem like a peanut issue compared to other things we have to >> discuss these days, but since so many things are coming up, I thought I >> toss it in and maybe it will get overlooked... >> >> It bugs me that every time I see a +1 in a normal conversation I find >> myself crawling back up the mail thread to check if I missed a vote call >> somewhere. I suspect it is common usus in apache land or maybe just an >> established habit, but I think it's a bad habit and potentially >> confusing as it's often not clear what the +1 refers to. >> >> >> Isn't it reasonable to expect that people use proper language like a >> simple 'Yes' or 'I agree' if they just want to express their support for >> a point or statement, and to reserve numerical expressions for formal >> vote threads? >> >> thanks, >> -Lukas >> >> (*sigh*, glad I got that off my chest...) >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org >> -- With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org