Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-maven-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 76356 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2009 18:37:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Mar 2009 18:37:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 36452 invoked by uid 500); 3 Mar 2009 18:37:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-maven-dev-archive@maven.apache.org Received: (qmail 36376 invoked by uid 500); 3 Mar 2009 18:37:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@maven.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Maven Developers List" Reply-To: "Maven Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@maven.apache.org Received: (qmail 36365 invoked by uid 99); 3 Mar 2009 18:37:02 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:37:02 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [63.208.196.178] (HELO mho-01-bos.mailhop.org) (63.208.196.178) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:36:53 +0000 Received: from adsl-074-170-244-147.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net ([74.170.244.147] helo=Betelgeuse.local) by mho-01-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LeZTj-000KJm-W2 for dev@maven.apache.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:36:32 +0000 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 74.170.244.147 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19Rr1tWMGLmvHki5nXiuYle Message-ID: <49AD78AF.4080104@commonjava.org> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:36:31 -0500 From: John Casey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maven Developers List Subject: Re: Maven 2.1.0 and Doxia References: <49AC2F61.1000007@commonjava.org> <2D4591DA-9760-446C-B345-8171FD1AEF21@apache.org> <49AD45DE.3090409@commonjava.org> <9ae367340903030952m3ca8d175lab467bd51b04a793@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ae367340903030952m3ca8d175lab467bd51b04a793@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Are they eagerly awaiting Doxia 1.1? What I'm wondering is, what are we standing in the way of by not putting the latest, greatest Doxia into Maven 2.1.0? Back in July/August of last year, we talked about pulling back from the Doxia upgrade so it could be released and soak into the community for awhile, as a substitute for in-depth testing. If Doxia had been released as 1.1 back in October, and had been used (or even tried) in the interim, a lot of this hand-wringing could be dispensed with. We could have bumped the Doxia version first thing in the 2.1.0 release process, and gone on our ways...and tested it all along while we fixed other bugs. If Doxia doesn't really have other consumers, then that means Doxia effectively has a slave release cycle, locked to Maven's. In this case, releasing early doesn't matter, and the risks are unavoidable when we do an upgrade. The risks can be minimized with a large set of tests, but they're unavoidable. I'm just trying to understand sort of why and how we got to this point. I'm not as convinced that the work we're doing in 2.1.x is pointless because 3.0 is right around the corner. So for me, it still makes sense to plan out our migration path WRT Doxia and other libraries in a way that will absolutely minimize the possible impact on our users. -john Vincent Siveton wrote: > Hi John, > > 2009/3/3 John Casey : >> Is Maven the only consumer of Doxia? When you say "everything else moving > > AFAIK, Xwiki and m2eclipse are also using Doxia > > Cheers, > > Vincent > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@maven.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@maven.apache.org