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From Aaron Digulla <>
Subject Re: Changes necessary in StAX to get it on par with DecentXML
Date Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:15:12 GMT
Quoting Jochen Wiedmann <>:

>> That didn't work well. Okay, since you don't believe me, here is an
>> (incomplete) list of changes I would need in StAX to be able to use it for
>> my work instead of having to write my own XML parser.
> I think here is a misunderstandment. The question was not (at least
> not IMO) whether you could rewrite DecentXML to use StAX, but whether
> you could give DecentXML a StAX API. That way Maven components could
> basically trust in a standard API, except for the cases where the
> differences matter.

Internally, DecentXML uses a StAX-like API (the DOM parser part uses a  
tokenizer to break the input into pieces). The problem is that I can't  
base DecentXML on StAX because StAX throws information away that I  
need and I can't offer a StAX-compatible API because StAX isn't meant  
to keep the information I need to preserve.

I could create a filter class which strips the information that  
DecentXML provides down to a StAX API but that would still be useless:

1. Case: You read POM files to create an object model. Here, you would  
gain nothing except you'd have to look for new bugs.

2. Case: You read POM files to filter them. Here the StAX API is  
useless because it throws too much information away, so this code  
would have to be written from scratch using an incompatible API  
anyway, no matter how you solve it.

That said, I've written a Maven search'r'replace tool using DecentXML.  
It's standalone (no dependencies besides DecentXML and Java's rt.jar),  
it can search pom.xml files with certain elements/texts and on these  
files, it can print certain parts (search), check that certain parts  
have certain values (for example, that all parent elements have the  
right version in them) and it can replace existing values with new ones.

The source is roughly 400 lines:

What I would like to see is that Maven keeps the StAX API internally  
to build the POM and to do its job. Only when a plugin needs to  
*manipulate* XML that a *user* has written *by hand*, it should use  
DecentXML. Currently, I know only of these plugins which fall into  
that category:

- archetype
- war
- version

All other plugins wouldn't gain enough from a transition to make the  
effort worthwhile.


Aaron "Optimizer" Digulla a.k.a. Philmann Dark
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