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From: Andrew Williams <andy@handyande.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Vote] Move plugin site.xml up to Maven or Shared
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 12:19:27 +0100
To: "Maven Developers List" <dev@maven.apache.org>

apart from the css glitch it seems good.

Andy

On 8 Apr 2007, at 04:12, Brian E. Fox wrote:

> I moved the site stuff up to the main maven pom. I staged the maven  
> main
> site here: http://people.apache.org/~brianf/maven/
>
> I think this is pretty good. I also staged a shared component to  
> see how
> it looks by inheriting the info here:
> http://people.apache.org/~brianf/enforcer/
>
> The problem is that the shared component page now is setting
> class="externalLink" for most of the links in the header. This  
> class has
> extra right padding and messes it up.
>
> I'm not familiar enough yet with the site and related tech to know how
> to fix this. It seems like changing the skin isn't what we want,  
> somehow
> we need to tell site not to make these externalLinks.
>
> Also, the plugin and shared sites should have the version and  
> published
> date as they currently do. However when you add the breadcrumbs, you
> can't seem to force them to be on the far left. I think the version  
> and
> published date should be to the right of the breadcrumbs to make
> everything consistent.
>
> Pointers?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Porter [mailto:brett@apache.org]
> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 10:04 PM
> To: Maven Developers List
> Subject: Re: [Vote] Move plugin site.xml up to Maven or Shared
>
> Makes sense. Another option is to have those links in the bottom of
> the left nav on every site too.
>
> I'm not against either of those solutions, as long as the links
> section isn't too bloated. I can certainly see the merits in
> consistency of the header section.
>
> - Brett
>
> On 08/04/2007, at 11:56 AM, Brian E. Fox wrote:
>
>> I agree they may be irrelevant for most plugins. However, the more
>> consistent the header, the more tied together everything feels. I
>> actually am always jumping around from section to section (almost
>> always
>> a maven.apache.org page open in a tab already) and it's nice to have
>> those links right there all the time.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brett Porter [mailto:brett@apache.org]
>> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 9:47 PM
>> To: Maven Developers List
>> Subject: Re: [Vote] Move plugin site.xml up to Maven or Shared
>>
>> I definitely agree with the breadcrumbs on the left. I don't mind
>> where the publish date goes as long as it's consistent (maybe bottom
>> is more suitable/traditional).
>>
>> For the links, I find them to be too noisy with all the subprojects.
>> On the main site these were put into the left nav. I think these
>> links are intended to be used for contextual links - how often are
>> you on a plugin site and decide to go to Continuum? So maybe the main
>> site contains those links (though I'd be happy to aggregate
>> frameworks under one link to a subpage), but the plugin sites just
>> link to the things relevant to that plugin (eg, the release site
>> links to the scm site, as does continuum, etc). The breadcrumbs
>> really look after the main navigation from there.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> On 06/04/2007, at 11:03 PM, Brian E. Fox wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will make the changes and stage the main site before pushing it
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>> What are we doing with the links that are present on plugins but
>>>> not on
>>>> the main site? It seems to me that they should be the same in both
>>>> locations (either with or without).
>>>
>>>> I think it makes sense for them to be the same. What's the delta?
>>>
>>> The plugins (not the plugins list page, but the plugins themselves)
>>> page
>>> has all the maven tech on the right (Maven 1.x |Maven 2.x | Maven  
>>> 2.x
>>> Plugins | Continuum | SCM | Wagon | JXR | Doxia). It does not have
>>> the
>>> "cookies" or "track marks" in the top left. They have the Last
>>> Published
>>> on the left.
>>> Example: http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-resources-plugin/
>>>
>>> The main maven pages do not list and of the maven tech stuff. The
>>> Published date is on the right instead. On the left are the track
>>> marks
>>> "Apache > Maven"
>>> Example: http://maven.apache.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> It would make the most sense to me is to have track marks on all
>>> pages
>>> in the top left followed by the publish date. Then have the maven-
>>> tech
>>> on the top right. This presents a consistent navigation experience
>>> throughout the entire site.
>>>
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