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From Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: SharePoint List item URLs
Date Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:44:33 GMT
Hi Mark,

I just noticed that the log output for the list item URL was incorrect in
the CONNECTORS-813 patch; it was outputting the old url value into the log,
even though the NEW url was being sent to the output connector.  Can you
confirm that you did in fact not just look at the ManifoldCF log to
determine whether or not the patch worked?

Karl



On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was trying to read the value as metadata, but clearly, then, it is not
> available, and we will need to construct it ourselves, probably according
> to this formula:
>
> // Display form full url
> string.Format("{0}{1}?ID={2}", item.Web.Url, item.ParentList.Forms[PAGETYPE.PAGE_DISPLAYFORM].ServerRelativeUrl,
item.ID)
>
> The problem is that when I included this in the plugin code, the plugin failed to work
properly.
>
> No doubt it threw an exception of some kind, but we have no idea what that was.
>
> Constructing it in Java is fine except I'm missing whatever the item.ParentList.Forms[]
array would have
>
> contained.  Can you confirm that this is the plugin you tried:
>
> 11832 Nov 20 17:35 MetaCarta.SharePoint.MCPermissionsService.wsp
>
> If the size differed it is possible you were using the wrong one - let's just rule that
out first.
>
> Karl
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Mark Libucha <mlibucha@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Still getting list item URIs that look like this:
>> http://myhost/test3/Lists/Greg/1_.000
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Mark Libucha <mlibucha@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent! I was writing up a response to tell you the 2nd plugin change
>>> also did not work. I'll revert and apply the patch and report back.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>
>>>> I found another way to do it - I think - that doesn't involve changes
>>>> to the plugin.
>>>>
>>>> I've attached a patch to the the ticket accordingly.  (CONNECTORS-813).
>>>>
>>>> So you should be able to revert back to the distributed plugin and that
>>>> will make things tons easier.
>>>>
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I've uploaded another try - this time using a different suggestion
>>>>> from the same page.  Can you verify that it does not fail for both
>>>>> documents in libraries and for list items?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, so much for StackOverflow suggestions.  It seems to be relying
>>>>>> on an undocumented feature anyhow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me try one other thing - will get right back to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Mark Libucha <mlibucha@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Karl,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It did not work. In fact, the SharePoint crawler never sent anything
>>>>>>> to my output connector, except for the Job Completed callback.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Log excerpt:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,683 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
>>>>>>> Getting version of '/test3/Links///'
>>>>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,684 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
>>>>>>> Checking whether to include list '/test3/Links'
>>>>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,684 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
>>>>>>> List '/test3/Links' exactly matched rule path '/*'
>>>>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,684 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
>>>>>>> Including list '/test3/Links'
>>>>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,685 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
>>>>>>> Processing: '/test3/Links///'
>>>>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,685 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
>>>>>>> Document identifier is a list: '/test3/Links'
>>>>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,768 (Worker thread '26') - SharePoint:
The
>>>>>>> page at http://myhost/test3 did not exist; assuming library deleted
>>>>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,768 (Worker thread '26') - SharePoint:
No
>>>>>>> list found for list '/test3/Calendar' - deleting
>>>>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:26,958 (Worker thread '34') - SharePoint:
In
>>>>>>> getFieldList; site='/test3',
>>>>>>> listName='{A6631841-0251-46C1-86F0-B1B049B2F659}'
>>>>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:27,360 (Worker thread '35') - SharePoint:
The
>>>>>>> page at http://myhost/test3 did not exist; assuming library deleted
>>>>>>> DEBUG 2013-11-20 11:56:27,360 (Worker thread '35') - SharePoint:
No
>>>>>>> list found for library '/test3/SitePages' - deleting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I've created a new version of the MCPermissions.asmx plugin
for
>>>>>>>> SharePoint 2010.  You can download the .wsp for it from:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~kwright/MetaCarta.SharePoint.MCPermissionsService.wsp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Install it by replacing the file of the same name in the
plugin
>>>>>>>> installation package.  Or, if you prefer, I can build the
complete package
>>>>>>>> - please let me know.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The point of doing this now is to make sure that this plugin
works
>>>>>>>> for both list items and for files, with getting exceptions
or whatnot.  If
>>>>>>>> it fails, then we are back to the drawing board, but if it
seems to work OK
>>>>>>>> then I will make appropriate modifications to the SharePoint
connector to
>>>>>>>> correspond to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In order to know whether it is working, you will need to
crawl both
>>>>>>>> lists and libraries, and make sure that MCF discovers the
list items and
>>>>>>>> files within without errors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you are able to do this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This link seems helpful:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/sharepoint/en-US/2be88c8b-812b-4574-8c2c-965cedd2f199/how-to-get-splistitem-item-server-relative-url-or-absolute-url-in-sharepoint-list?forum=sharepointdevelopmentlegacy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll give it a try.
>>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First - have you installed the ManifoldCF SharePoint
2010
>>>>>>>>>> plugin?  Have you selected SharePoint 2010 in your
connection definition?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you have, then ManifoldCF is communicating with
the
>>>>>>>>>> MCPermissions.asmx plugin to perform this activity.
 Please see this page:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.splistitem_members%28v=office.14%29.aspx
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The field the plugin is returning is the "Url" field
of the
>>>>>>>>>> item.  There is no "ListItemURL" member that I can
see.  So, are inspecting
>>>>>>>>>> the results from the Lists web service?  I wonder
how the Lists webservice
>>>>>>>>>> translates the FileRef URL into a ListItemURL, in
C#?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Karl Wright <daddywri@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok; to fix this problem then we will need a new
release of the
>>>>>>>>>>> SharePoint 2010 plugin.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Mark Libucha
<
>>>>>>>>>>> mlibucha@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, I think it's this: LISTITEMURL
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That works for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Karl Wright
<
>>>>>>>>>>>> daddywri@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm, okay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The URL we use is what comes back in
the "FileRef" field of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Lists.asmx getListItems response.
 It is possible that there's a better
>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice for list items.  I'll create a
ticket and look into what the options
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Mark
Libucha <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mlibucha@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't work either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the SharePoint UI, the Task List
is presented as a table,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with each of the individual items
in the list presented as a URL. When you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> click on an item, it raises a pop
up...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The links on the page look like this...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://myhost/_layouts/listform.aspx?PageType=4&ListId={1BD4F07D-A210-45A7-9C91-D296B1AB73EE}&ID=2&ContentTypeID=0x010800DE3D7FC80C8CFC4BA00DFEC40120E795
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing like the URIs they are handing
back to MCF...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:25 PM,
Karl Wright <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daddywri@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SharePoint indeed uses URLs of
this form.  The one you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provided describes a List in
the root site called "Tasks", and references
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the second item in that list.
 I'm surprised SharePoint doesn't give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something better than a 404 when
you go to it, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you go to http://myhost/Lists/Tasks#2_.000<http://myhost/Lists/Tasks/2_.000>without
it giving a 404?  because that's something the connector could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://myhost/Lists/Tasks/2_.000>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:21
PM, Mark Libucha <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mlibucha@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I crawl a list, I get
back URLs that look like this:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://myhost/Lists/Tasks/2_.000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This URL returns a 404, but
I think that's a SharePoint
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. I don't believe there's
a way to point directly to an item in List
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (is there?).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My question then is, is SharePoint
returning this URL in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this form, or is MCF creating
the URL based on the name of the list?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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