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From Andrew Palumbo <ap....@outlook.com>
Subject RE: New logo
Date Sat, 06 May 2017 22:05:18 GMT
+1 :)



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Scott C. Cote" <scottccote@gmail.com>
Date: 05/06/2017 2:43 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: user@mahout.apache.org
Cc: Trevor Grant <trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>, Mahout Dev List <dev@mahout.apache.org>
Subject: Re: New logo

Will you be wearing “one of those t-shirts” on Monday  in Houston :)   ?
SCott
Scott C. Cote
scottccote@gmail.com
972.672.6484



> On May 6, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know where one of those t-shirts is.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm <isabel@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> The green logo was the very first design iteration before iirc Robin came
>> up with the yellow one. The should be like five TShirts world wide with the
>> old logo printed in 2009.
>>
>>
>> Am 1. Mai 2017 20:41:43 MESZ schrieb Trevor Grant <
>> trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>:
>>> Thanks Scott,
>>>
>>> You are correct- in fact we're going even further now, that you can do
>>> native optimization regardless of the architecture with native-solvers.
>>>
>>> Do you or anyone more familiar with the history of the website know
>>> anything about the origins/uses of this:
>>> https://mahout.apache.org/images/Mahout-logo-245x300.png
>>> It seems to be a green mahout logo.
>>>
>>> Also Scott, or anyone lurking who may be able to help.  As part of the
>>> website reboot I've included a "history" page and would really
>>> apppreciate
>>> some help capturing that from first person sources if possible. Ive put
>>> in
>>> some headers but those are only directional:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo/mahout/blob/website/website/front/
>> community/history.md
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Trevor Grant
>>> Data Scientist
>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>>> http://trevorgrant.org
>>>
>>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM, scott cote <scottccote@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Trevor et al:
>>>>
>>>> Some ideas to spur you on (and related points):
>>>>
>>>> Mahout is no longer a grab bag of algorithms and routines, but a math
>>>> language right?  You don’t care about the under the cover
>>> implementation.
>>>> Today its Spark with alternative implementations in Flink, etc ….
>>>>
>>>> Don’t know if that is the long term goal still  - haven’t kept up -
>>> but it
>>>> seems like you are insulating yourself from the underlying
>>> technology.
>>>>
>>>> Math is a universal language.  Right?
>>>>
>>>> Tower of Babel is coming to mind ….
>>>>
>>>> SCott
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Trevor Grant
>>> <trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't
>>> like the
>>>>> ones in front of me...
>>>>>
>>>>> I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming
>>> back to
>>>>> me.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Enso.
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D
>>>>>
>>>>> Things I like about it:
>>>>> (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol
>>> prior
>>>> is
>>>>> that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
>>>>> It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
>>>>> ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from
>>> Hebrew-
>>>>> which may be something akin to essence or truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle
>>> which
>>>>> symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator,
>>>> expressive
>>>>> like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL,
>>> but
>>>> I'm
>>>>> spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive).
>>>>>
>>>>> "Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the
>>>>> character of its creator and the context of its creation in a
>>> brief,
>>>>> contiguous period of time." Which reminds me of the DRMs
>>>>>
>>>>> In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection-
>>> which
>>>> a
>>>>> little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can
>>> create a
>>>>> perfect circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points
>>> and
>>>> how
>>>>> could ever be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet
>>> such
>>>>> things must exist, or what blueprint would a creator of circles be
>>>> striving
>>>>> for.  This, by-the-by reminds me of stochastic approaches to
>>> solving
>>>>> problems, and really statistics / "machine-learning" in general, in
>>> that
>>>> we
>>>>> can't find perfect solutions, yet we believe solutions exist and
>>> serve as
>>>>> our blueprint.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, I like that it is simple.
>>>>>
>>>>> Things I don't like about it:
>>>>> Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a
>>> very
>>>>> specific red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other thoughts:
>>>>> Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout
>>> color
>>>>> palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors.
>>> This
>>>>> could also be represented in any single color. (Not sure what that
>>> does
>>>> to
>>>>> our TM, is it ok if we just keep slapping TMs on the side of it? If
>>> that
>>>> is
>>>>> the case is there any reason we must have a single Enso?)
>>>>>
>>>>> So there is something to throw in the pot that is a little more
>>> grown up
>>>>> than my runner up favorites (honey badger, blueman riding bomb
>>> waving
>>>>> cowboy hat, blueman riding lighting bolt into a squirrel covered in
>>>> water,
>>>>> etc).
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, only know what wiki has told me, so if anyone is more
>>> familiar
>>>> with
>>>>> this symbol (like was it used as a logo by some horrible dictator
>>> which
>>>>> carried out terrible attrocities?) or just general comments.
>>>>> tg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Trevor Grant
>>>>> Data Scientist
>>>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>>>>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>>>>> http://trevorgrant.org
>>>>>
>>>>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."
>>> -Virgil*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Ted Dunning
>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't have any constructive input at all. None of the proposals
>>> showed
>>>>>> any spark (to me).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hate it when I can't suggest a better path and I hate negative
>>>> feedback.
>>>>>> But there it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Pat Ferrel
>>> <pat@occamsmachete.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have constructive input (guidance or opinion is welcome
>>> input)
>>>> or
>>>>>>> would you like to discontinue the contest. If the later, -1 now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought that none of the proposals were worth continuing with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Pat Ferrel
>>> <pat@occamsmachete.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, -1 means you hate them all or think the designers  are
not
>>> worth
>>>>>>>> paying. We have to pay to continue, I’ll foot the bill
>>> (donations
>>>>>>>> appreciated) but don’t want to unless people think it will
lead
>>> to
>>>>>>>> something. For me there are a couple I wouldn’t mind seeing
on
>>> the web
>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>> or swag and yes we do have time to try something completely
>>> different,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the designers will be more willing since there is a guaranteed
>>> payout.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 3:30 PM, Andrew Musselman <
>>>>>>> andrew.musselman@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought we were just voting on continuing this process
:)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Trevor Grant <
>>>>>> trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also Pat, thank you for organizing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't love any of them enough to +1, I don't hate them
all
>>> enough
>>>> to
>>>>>>> -1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most of them remind me of some spin on Apache Apex, Python,
>>> Numpy (a
>>>>>>>> Python
>>>>>>>>> Library), or IBM's DSX.  However, I realize a big part
of that
>>> is the
>>>>>>>>> colors chosen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> #143 is my favorite (possibly because it reminds me of
none of
>>> the
>>>>>>>> above).
>>>>>>>>> But possibly if this goes to next round we can have them
adjust
>>> hues
>>>> /
>>>>>>>>> colors.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trevor Grant
>>>>>>>>> Data Scientist
>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>>>>>>>>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>>>>>>>>> http://trevorgrant.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of
things."
>>>>>> -Virgil*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Musselman <
>>>>>>>>> andrew.musselman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 to continue; thanks for organizing this Pat!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My personal favorite is #38
>>>>>>>>>> https://images-platform.99static.com/I9quDzcBrtJXg_
>>>>>>>>> NMaIsH6ySQ7Ok=/filters:
>>>>>>>>>> quality(100)/99designs-contests-attachments/84/84017/
>>>>>>>> attachment_84017937
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I like the stylized and simple "M" and it reminds
me of
>>> diagrams
>>>>>>> showing
>>>>>>>>>> vector multiplication.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Pat Ferrel
>>> <pat@occamsmachete.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We can treat this like a release vote, if anyone
hates all
>>> these
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t want to continue with shortlisted designers
for 3
>>> more days
>>>>>>>>> (the
>>>>>>>>>>> next step) vote -1 and say if your vote is binding
(your are
>>> a PMC
>>>>>>>>>> member)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise all are welcome to rate everything
on the polls
>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In this case you have 24 hours to vote
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here’s my +1 to continue refining.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:41 AM, Pat Ferrel
>>> <pat@occamsmachete.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is a second group, hopefully picked to be
unique.
>>>>>>>>>>> https://99designs.com/contests/poll/vl7xed
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We got a lot of responses, these 2 polls contain
the best
>>> afaict.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Pat Ferrel
>>> <pat@occamsmachete.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Vote: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/rqcgif
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We asked for something “mathy” and asked
for no elephant and
>>> rider.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>> have the rest of the week to tweak so leave comments
about
>>> what you
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> would like to change.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We don’t have to pick one of these, so if you
hate them all,
>>> make
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> known too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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