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[24.22.234.117]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ug4sm38497191pac.11.2015.10.19.15.29.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Is Mahout obsolete now? From: Pat Ferrel In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:29:46 -0700 Cc: shanfeishanfei@gmail.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: "user@mahout.apache.org" , Sean Owen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) BTW this use of Mahout-Samsara on Spark for recs has really expanded. = The Samsara part I=E2=80=99m calling a Correlation Engine, it can be = used to mix usage, content, and context to make recs. I look back on 2 = years ago as pretty much groping around for solutions. Things are much = clearer now (for me at least) Check out some slides about the math, leading to the =E2=80=9Cwhole = enchilada=E2=80=9D equation. Ted Dunning, Sean Owen, and Sebastian = Schelter get no small credit. http://www.slideshare.net/pferrel/unified-recommender-39986309 Even have code running using the PredicitonIO framework. This includesa = SDK to event store to realtime query. Loosely speaking a lambda = architecture. Most of the whole enchilada running except the content = part of the equation, which only works on metadata for how. https://github.com/pferrel/scala-parallel-universal-recommendation We even do custom versions at actionML.com On Oct 19, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Sean Owen wrote: No, this is pretty wrong. Spark is not, in general, a real-time anything. Spark Streaming is a near-real-time streaming framework, but it is not something you can build models with. Spark MLlib / ML are offline / batch. Not sure what you mean by Hadoop engine, but Spark does not build on MapReduce, if that's what you mean. The "classic" Mahout code (<=3D 0.9) is definitely deprecated. The "new" Mahout is not. It has a fairly different new recommender system called Samsara. It has Scala APIs. In fact, it uses Spark. I think you're somehow talking about the "classic" Mahout code here only. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Fei Shan = wrote: > Spark is a in memory , near realtime Machine Learning frameowork , has > scala and java interface > Mahout is an offline Machine Learning framework, no scala apis >=20 > they both built on the HDFS and Hadoop engine >=20 > Spark has an ecosystem like Hadoop > Mahout is part of of Hadoop ecosystem >=20 > Spark could beat Mahout on processing speed > and concise programming APIs >=20 > for online data anaysis , Spark is a better choice. > for offline data analysis, both fits well. >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Prasad Priyadarshana Fernando < > bppf16@gmail.com> wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> If I have used Mahout for my recommendation application, should I = migrate >> into Spark MLib technology? Is the mahout still supported and = migrated? >>=20 >> Thanks >>=20 >> *Prasad Priyadarshana Fernando = >> * >> Mobile: +1 330 283 5827 >>=20