Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-mahout-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 10667 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2010 11:06:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 28 Oct 2010 11:06:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 55668 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2010 11:06:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-mahout-user-archive@mahout.apache.org Received: (qmail 55579 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2010 11:06:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact user-help@mahout.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: user@mahout.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list user@mahout.apache.org Received: (qmail 55571 invoked by uid 99); 28 Oct 2010 11:06:21 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:06:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of sbourke@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.170 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.170] (HELO mail-wy0-f170.google.com) (74.125.82.170) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:06:13 +0000 Received: by wyb35 with SMTP id 35so1686057wyb.1 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2010 04:05:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XTWSzS9VTp20PNXK7oFaxq/spHWaH0laGi0hRJUSF1I=; b=o1ZfaPB/R8Qmtvii7jMt4lmIojdHk7D50xWSkROvYlSdq18mp9c9Ha8NQU7bLO6Je2 CG7ETAIKt/nJaRRqAh6mf48D2uNpTZ9Z8OilZLYFbihof9BvIuIhnOezpoO0w5Wpyh05 ejjoidrk5hr/7OZc3lSdZcJYu2AGnkUQ40qoA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OXJmzRgLyD5saHKkX7OJHru5Jd3eaISRn5Vy5rsFCYWdh2Ks3A9MOs/zb02Xj9fyE5 /vov6nINjhkgZtKzLLgEhMC7tkaaLd/ShzvXZFmnLamn8UKunBoKeNOGISnM/ZU/5pv1 wbRERgsgC9ClXsASt2sHhHowZXXsr+JS2b7TA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.17.135 with SMTP id j7mr2057367wej.97.1288263952637; Thu, 28 Oct 2010 04:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.60.15 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2010 04:05:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4CC918BA.3030405@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:05:52 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ease of recommendation for a user From: Steven Bourke To: user@mahout.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c25c64621610493ab53ca X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --0016e64c25c64621610493ab53ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's always worth considering that a model does not reflect the true nature of your recommendation. You can't really measure good serendipity or diversity. You could possibly look at the quality of the users neighborhood when generating the recommendation. i.e is their a good level of similarity between the users or is it quite low. If its quite low, in theory the recommendations are probably not going to be great given the sparsity of overlap. Couple of good starting points here on scholar. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=recommendation+sparse+data&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=ws On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Sean Owen wrote: > What's your intuition -- what would you do with this figure? Users with > higher variance are easier or harder to recommend well for? I don't know if > that directly affects the quality... probably the diversity of quantity of > prefs is more directly relevant. > > On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Lance Norskog wrote: > > > The following code is an attempt to decide how easy it to give a > > recommendation to a given user. Does the user give us enough to go on? > > > > The idea is to get recommendations for a user and measure their standard > > deviation. As a separate task, get the raw preferences value from the > data > > model for that recommendation, if available, and measure their standard > > deviation also. I'm not sure this is the right approach. > > > > Are there standard models for this question? > > > > > --0016e64c25c64621610493ab53ca--