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From Andrew Musselman <andrew.mussel...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: PMML
Date Thu, 05 Mar 2015 03:25:59 GMT
I think keeping it simple is best, try implementing one or two models in
XML and then get fancy if it makes sense.

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015, Saikat Kanjilal <sxk1969@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Next question: Is the audience for PMML programmers or could it be folks
> that can script?  I'm wondering how this intersects with a simple spark
> like DSL , could Mahout implement an intersection between the two?  If
> there's interest I can go into examples.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 4, 2015, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Musselman <andrew.musselman@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Sure, those would be options.
> >
> >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Saikat Kanjilal <sxk1969@hotmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Question, is there a way to introduce PMML with using a more lightweight
> >> format like yaml or json?
> >>
> >>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 13:25:29 -0800
> >>> Subject: Re: PMML
> >>> From: andrew.musselman@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>> To: dev@mahout.apache.org <javascript:;>
> >>>
> >>> Yes, the limitations are often an issue for people doing things that
> >> aren't
> >>> in the PMML spec yet; there could be room for suggesting new features
> in
> >>> the spec by building them though, I suppose.
> >>>
> >>> Also agree that XML is a lousy/bloated way of representing stuff like
> >> this,
> >>> but in the end it's just a choice of representation so there may be
> >> reason
> >>> to use some other encoding and then provide an XML-export function.
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Dmitriy Lyubimov <dlieu.7@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am willing to +1 any contribution at this point.
> >>>>
> >>>> my previous company used pmml to serialize simple stuff, but i don't
> >>>> have first hand experience. Its flexibility is ultimately pretty
> >>>> limited, isn't it? And xml is ultimately a media which is too ugly and
> >>>> too verbose at the same time to represent models with any more or less
> >>>> decent number of parameters?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Suneel Marthi <
> suneel.marthi@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> >>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> It makes sense to support PMML for classification and clustering
> >> tasks to
> >>>>> be able to share and distribute trained models. Sean, Pat, Dmitriy
> >> and
> >>>> Ted
> >>>>> please chime in.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PMML support in Mahout was talked about for a long time now but
never
> >>>>> really got any traction to take off.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1 to build this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Andrew Musselman <
> >>>>> andrew.musselman@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> How much interest is there in a mahout-pmml module, with a starting
> >>>> point
> >>>>>> to be able to export a few analytic/scoring jobs to PMML
> >> representation?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've seen a lot of interest at in being able to use PMML to
> >> translate
> >>>>>> analytic work into production(though I think people talk about
it
> >> more
> >>>> than
> >>>>>> they do it), and it could be a benchmark as part of a "definition
of
> >>>> done"
> >>>>>> for any existing/new method we include since there's a spec
to
> >> build to.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best
> >>>>>> Andrew
> >>
> >>
>

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