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From Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [lucy-dev] RFC: Grant all ASF Committers Lucy SVN karma
Date Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:36:25 GMT
Outstanding Marvin!




>________________________________
> From: Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com>
>To: lucy-dev@incubator.apache.org 
>Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 7:28 PM
>Subject: [lucy-dev] RFC: Grant all ASF Committers Lucy SVN karma
> 
>Greets,
>
>I'd like to propose that the Lucy podling consider nuking our Subversion authz
>entry, allowing anyone who is a Committer at the ASF to commit to the Lucy
>corner of the ASF repository.
>
>There are two primary rationales for making this change.  First, we make life
>easier for Infra -- especially if other projects follow our lead.  Second, we
>lower the barrier to entry for other ASF committers to contribute to Lucy.
>
>Of course we would still have a soft rule in place that significant changes
>must be run through lucy-dev first, but we would trust other committers to
>follow this rule rather than enforce it through access control as we do today.
>
>Security is not a problem.  For this to work, we have to monitor our commits
>list closely -- but any project that doesn't monitor its commits list closely
>doesn't deserve to live at the ASF in the first place.  The bare minimum
>effort is just to watch the sender address for looking for unfamiliar apache
>ids.  Anything that we catch and don't like, we can just revert.
>
>Provenance tracking is not a problem either -- anybody who has ASF commit
>privileges has an iCLA on file.  
>
>Various people throughout the ASF are on record supporting the liberalization
>of repository permissions, including Board member Roy Fielding and Lucy
>Mentors Joe Schaefer and Chris Mattmann.  Roy recently wrote to
>general@incubator urging that the all Incubator committers be given commit
>access to all podlings:
>
>    http://s.apache.org/0HY
>
>    I *suggest* that incubator change the procedure such that all committers
>    (or at least all committers within a single LDAP group) have access to all
>    incubator areas and that new people simply be requested to only commit
>    within areas for which they have been given permission by the podling
>    developers. 
>
>Joe and I believe that we should go one step further and grant access to the
>entire ASF committer community.  Neither Joe, nor I, nor Gavin MacDonald
>foresee serious problems.  There may be Incubator-specific bookkeeping issues
>that arise, as discussed in the followups to Roy's post, but those shouldn't
>block us on principle.
>
>From what Joe tells me, other ASF communities have discussed making such a
>change, but we would be the first to actually go through with it.
>
>If we have general consensus, I will call a VOTE proposing that we liberalize
>our authz to the maximum extent possible within the practical constraints of
>the Incubator.
>
>Marvin Humphrey
>
>
>
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