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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <>
Subject Re: [lucy-dev] [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: [lucy-dev] All dependency licensing issues resolved)
Date Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:34:12 GMT
On Oct 27, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote:

>>> Commit mails on still show mostly "just" Marvin.
>>> Or what am I missing?
>> Commits aren't the only sign of community. They also aren't the only
>> sustaining thing you need. You need:
>> * VOTEs
>> * discussion emails
>> * JIRA threads
>> * release managers
>> * documentation writers, etc.
> That's all and great but this falls down as soon as Marvin (for
> whatever reason) would be gone.

I wholly disagree with you.


> As much as I would love to see lucy graduate I still think it's not ready.
> Well, and I am saying this is not a diverse community - which also one
> of the goals of incubation. A single person committing on a TLP is not
> quite the Apache way I know.
> Frankly - I don't understand the rush.

What rush? I raised this issue months ago, and we actually had some discussions
about it. Most folks in the community agreed that the remaining item to check off
was the licensing issues.

Months is not a rush. 

Go read the Lucy reports: the project has been in Incubation 
since July 2010: so it's been about 1 year, 3 months. Every project has a different 
amount of time in Incubation and every project has a checklist of things to get done
before graduating. I think we've met that checklist. 


Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA

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