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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: [lucy-dev] TRIAL CPAN releases
Date Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:45:54 GMT
Not to belabor this discussion, but:

On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Chris Hostetter wrote:

> : > My own opinion is that even if the PMC were to do it "officially" then it 
> : > wouldn't be much different then PMCs that publish maven SNAPSHOT builds to 
> : > ibiblio (and in the ways that it is different it's better because it would 
> : > only be RCs under formal vote)
> : 
> : This doesn't really happen anymore as I understand it. Folks who want to do this 
> : go to http://repository.apache.org/ and then upload their artifacts to the Nexus 
> : server there, and then when the RC is released, and then closed, the released RC 
> : gets sync'ed to Maven Central at some specified interval. So even these releases 
> : go through Apache still.
> 
> ok .. so it's repository.apache.org instead of ibiblio -- but the point is 
> still the same: unofficial builds (which are clearly identified as 
> unofficial) are distributed using langauge specific mechanisms for 
> the purposes of user testing.  

Right, they are decidedly "unofficial" as far as the ASF is concerned, but not as far as 
downstream consumers who may never download a build from the ASF, but 
will get it via Maven are concerned.


> The fact that maven is an apache project 
> so that language specific mechanism happens to be an apache.org server 
> doesn't really seem relevant to the point...
> 
> https://maven.apache.org/guides/development/guide-testing-development-plugins.html
> 
> ...and in any case, those are trunk snapshots, and we're talking about 
> release candidates.

The *same* process for repository.apache.org for snapshots exists 
for RCs.

>  the point of release candiates is to be tested by end 
> users before the release becomes official, so i can't see any objection to 
> making end-products produced from those release candidates (clearly labled 
> as such) available for users who are interested in testing them via the 
> channel that they would normally use.

Nominally I agree with you but I know there is a set of others at the ASF 
that don't, e.g., sebb to name one. Anyways, I'll drop it.

Cheers,
Chris

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