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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <>
Subject Re: [lucy-dev] TRIAL CPAN releases
Date Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:45:54 GMT
Not to belabor this discussion, but:

On Aug 30, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Chris Hostetter wrote:

> : > My own opinion is that even if the PMC were to do it "officially" then it 
> : > wouldn't be much different then PMCs that publish maven SNAPSHOT builds to 
> : > ibiblio (and in the ways that it is different it's better because it would 
> : > only be RCs under formal vote)
> : 
> : This doesn't really happen anymore as I understand it. Folks who want to do this 
> : go to and then upload their artifacts to the Nexus 
> : server there, and then when the RC is released, and then closed, the released RC 
> : gets sync'ed to Maven Central at some specified interval. So even these releases 
> : go through Apache still.
> ok .. so it's instead of ibiblio -- but the point is 
> still the same: unofficial builds (which are clearly identified as 
> unofficial) are distributed using langauge specific mechanisms for 
> the purposes of user testing.  

Right, they are decidedly "unofficial" as far as the ASF is concerned, but not as far as 
downstream consumers who may never download a build from the ASF, but 
will get it via Maven are concerned.

> The fact that maven is an apache project 
> so that language specific mechanism happens to be an server 
> doesn't really seem relevant to the point...
> ...and in any case, those are trunk snapshots, and we're talking about 
> release candidates.

The *same* process for for snapshots exists 
for RCs.

>  the point of release candiates is to be tested by end 
> users before the release becomes official, so i can't see any objection to 
> making end-products produced from those release candidates (clearly labled 
> as such) available for users who are interested in testing them via the 
> channel that they would normally use.

Nominally I agree with you but I know there is a set of others at the ASF 
that don't, e.g., sebb to name one. Anyways, I'll drop it.


Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA

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