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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:47:42 -0000
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The "LucyIncubatorProposal" page has been changed by MarvinHumphrey.
The comment on this change is: Flesh out "Core Developers", cannibalizing i=
nformation from elsewhere.  Shrink and refine some of the Known Risks. .
http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/LucyIncubatorProposal?action=3Ddiff&rev1=3D20&r=
ev2=3D21

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  Lucy's chief challenge is growing its community, which it hopes to achiev=
e through efforts in two areas: reaching a 1.0 release, and actively reachi=
ng out to its target audience, users and developers in the dynamic language=
 communities who want a fast, scalable full-text search solution in their n=
ative language.
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  =3D=3D=3D Core Developers =3D=3D=3D
- Apache is composed of individuals.
  =

- It is useful to provide a brief introduction to the developers on the ini=
tial committers list. This is best done here (and not in that section). Thi=
s section may be used to discuss the diversity of the core development team=
. Example (ServiceMix) The core developers are a diverse group of developer=
s many of which are already very experienced open source developers. There =
is at least one Apache Member together with a number of other existing Apac=
he Committers along with folks from various companies. http://servicemix.or=
g/Team Example (WADI) WADI was founded by Jules Gosnell in 2004, it now has=
 a strong base of developers from Geronimo, Castor, OpenEJB, Mojo, Jetty, A=
ctiveCluster, ActiveMQ, and ServiceMix.
+  * Marvin Humphrey is the project founder of KinoSearch, and co-founded t=
he existing Lucy subproject.  He is presently employed by Eventful, Inc.
+  * Peter Karman has contributed to several open source projects since 200=
1, including being a committer at http://swish-e.org/ (a search engine), ht=
tp://code.google.com/p/rose/ (an ORM) and http://catalyst.perl.org/ (web fr=
amework).  He is employed by American Public Media.
+  * Nathan Kurz has participated in numerous open source projects and has =
been a KinoSearch committer since 2007.  He is currently Chief Flavor Engin=
eer of Scream Sorbet, and writes software in his copious free time.
  =

  =3D=3D=3D Alignment =3D=3D=3D
  One Apache value which is particularly cherished by the Lucy community is=
 code base transparency.  We have developed institutions which enable us to=
 measure and maximize usability (see [http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/BrainLog]=
), and we feel strongly that the bindings for Lucy must present APIs and do=
cumentation which are idiomatic to the host language culture so that end us=
ers can consume our work as easily as possible.
@@ -56, +57 @@

  =3D=3D Known Risks =3D=3D
  =

  =3D=3D=3D Orphaned products =3D=3D=3D
- All three initial committers have been associated with the project for se=
veral years across multiple jobs.  However, at this time, the project would=
 probably not survive the departure of the the founder, Marvin Humphrey, so=
 there is a risk of being orphaned.  Marvin has no plans to leave, but as a=
 community we have been actively working to make him dispensable.
+ All initial committers have been associated with the project for several =
years across multiple jobs.  However, at this time, the project would proba=
bly not survive the departure of Marvin Humphrey, so there is a risk of bei=
ng orphaned.  Marvin has no plans to leave, but we have been actively worki=
ng to disperse his knowledge of the code base and administrative responsibi=
lities in order to make him dispensable.
- =

  =

  =3D=3D=3D Inexperience with Open Source =3D=3D=3D
  =

+ The initial committers have all have significant experience with open sou=
rce development, and include one present Apache committer.  We recognize th=
at we lack PMC experience and seek to address that deficiency by going thro=
ugh the Incubator.  In retrospect, Marvin wishes that Lucy had gone through=
 the Incubator during its first inception.
- Varying degrees of open source experience:
-  * Marvin Humphrey had moderate experience with open source when Lucy sta=
rted, and is now more seasoned. In retrospect, he wishes that Lucy had gone=
 through incubation during its first inception.
-  * Peter Karman has contributed to several open source projects since 200=
1, including being a committer at http://swish-e.org/ (a search engine), ht=
tp://code.google.com/p/rose/ (an ORM) and http://catalyst.perl.org/ (web fr=
amework).
-  * Nathan Kurz --
- =

- =

  =

  =3D=3D=3D Homogenous Developers =3D=3D=3D
  Our community is geographically dispersed, with members in San Diego, Oak=
land, and Minneapolis.  We all work for different organizations.
  =

  =3D=3D=3D Reliance on Salaried Developers =3D=3D=3D
- Marvin Humphrey is currently employed primarily to work on this project a=
nd to support applications that use it.
+ Marvin Humphrey has a great job at Eventful working primarily on this pro=
ject and supporting applications that use it.  Nevertheless, he is extremel=
y dedicated to Lucy and is determined to see it through to the point where =
it becomes self-sustaining, regardless of work circumstances.
  =

  =3D=3D=3D Relationships with Other Apache Products =3D=3D=3D
  When Lucy was conceived, we envisioned that our eventual sub-communities =
(Perl, Ruby, etc) would approach using and extending the library in distinc=
t ways, and that we would be able to harness the creative tension between t=
he different cultures to drive innovation.  Lucy and Lucene have that kind =
of a relationship today, and multiple significant novelties have either cro=
ss-pollinated or arisen while discussing competing approaches.  (e.g. objec=
t conservation during indexing, per-segment search.)
@@ -131, +126 @@

   1. Peter Karman (peter at peknet dot com)
   1. Nathan Kurz ( nate@verse.com )
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- =3D=3D Affiliations =3D=3D
- Marvin Humphrey is employed by Eventful, Inc and works primarily on this =
project.
- Peter Karman is employed by American Public Media and contributes to this=
 project and several other open source projects.
- =

  =3D=3D Sponsors =3D=3D
  =3D=3D=3D Champion =3D=3D=3D
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