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From Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: solr core replication
Date Mon, 23 Oct 2017 15:39:36 GMT
Great, thanks for bringing closure to this!

oh, and one addendum. I wrote:

It'll probably be around forever since replication is used as a fall-back....

Forget the "probably" there. In 7.x there are new replica types that
use this as their way of distributing the index, see the PULL replica
type. So forget the "probably" in that statement ;)

Best,
Erick

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 6:45 AM, Hendrik Haddorp
<hendrik.haddorp@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi Erick,
>
> sorry for the slow reply. You are right, the information is not persisted.
> Once I do a restart there is no information about the replication source
> anymore. That explains why I could not find it anywhere persisted ;-) I
> thought I had tested that last week but must have not done so as it worked
> just fine now.
>
> thanks,
> Hendrik
>
> On 20.10.2017 16:39, Erick Erickson wrote:
>>
>> Does that persist even after you restart Solr on the target cluster?
>>
>> And that clears up one bit of confusion I had, I didn't know how you
>> were having each shard on the target cluster use a different master URL
>> given they all use the same solrconfig file. I was guessing some magic
>> with
>> system variables, but it turns out you were waaaay ahead of me and
>> not configuring the replication in solrconfig at all.
>>
>> But no, I know of no API level command that works to do what you're
>> asking.
>> I also don't know where that data is persisted, I'm afraid you'll have to
>> go
>> code-diving for all the help I can be....
>>
>> Using fetchindex this way in SolrCloud is something of an edge case. It'll
>> probably be around forever since replication is used as a fall-back when
>> a replica syncs, but there'll be some bits like this hanging around I'd
>> guess.
>>
>> Best,
>> Erick
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:55 PM, Hendrik Haddorp
>> <hendrik.haddorp@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Erick,
>>>
>>> that is actually the call I'm using :-)
>>> If you invoke
>>> http://solr_target_machine:port/solr/core/replication?command=details
>>> after
>>> that you can see the replication status. But even after a Solr restart
>>> the
>>> call still shows the replication relation and I would like to remove this
>>> so
>>> that the core looks "normal" again.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Hendrik
>>>
>>> On 20.10.2017 02:31, Erick Erickson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Little known trick:
>>>>
>>>> The fetchIndex replication API call can take any parameter you specify
>>>> in your config. So you don't have to configure replication at all on
>>>> your target collection, just issue the replication API command with
>>>> masterUrl, something like:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://solr_target_machine:port/solr/core/replication?command=fetchindex&masterUrl=http://solr_source_machine:port/solr/core
>>>>
>>>> NOTE, "core" above will be something like
>>>> collection1_shard1_replica1....
>>>>
>>>> During the fetchindex, you won't be able to search on the target
>>>> collection although the source will be searchable.
>>>>
>>>> Now, all that said this is just copying stuff. So let's say you've
>>>> indexed to your source cluster and set up your target cluster (but
>>>> don't index anything to the target or do the replication etc). Now if
>>>> you shut down the target cluster and just copy the entire data dir
>>>> from each source replica to each target replica then start all the
>>>> target Solr instances up you'll be fine.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Erick
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Hendrik Haddorp
>>>> <hendrik.haddorp@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to transfer a Solr collection from one SolrCloud to another one.
>>>>> For
>>>>> that I create a collection in the target cloud using the same config
>>>>> set
>>>>> as
>>>>> on the source cloud but with a replication factor of one. After that
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> using the Solr core API with a "replication?command=fetchindex" command
>>>>> to
>>>>> transfer the data. In the last step I'm increasing the replication
>>>>> factor.
>>>>> This seems to work fine so far. When I invoke
>>>>> "replication?command=details"
>>>>> I can see my replication setup and check if the replication is done.
In
>>>>> the
>>>>> end I would like to remove this relation again but there does not seem
>>>>> to
>>>>> be
>>>>> an API call for that. Given that the replication should be a one time
>>>>> replication according to the API on
>>>>> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/6_6/index-replication.html this
>>>>> should
>>>>> not be a big problem. It just does not look clean to me to leave this
>>>>> in
>>>>> the
>>>>> system. Is there anything I'm missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Hendrik
>>>
>>>
>

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