Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5D1200C53 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:59:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id B84F2160B9B; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 0868D160B7D for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:59:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 36060 invoked by uid 500); 11 Apr 2017 20:59:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact solr-user-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list solr-user@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 36048 invoked by uid 99); 11 Apr 2017 20:59:29 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:59:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id C10ACCEF07 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:59:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.916 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.916 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.796, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URI_HEX=1.313] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd1-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YeyoAmkiFdTW for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-f180.google.com (mail-io0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 9DFA15FC6F for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:59:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-f180.google.com with SMTP id a103so18630295ioj.1 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 13:59:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=3d0AacsF3zwHZzfFIHooA4Tyh/NyS1EpaXOtIQQ4+Tw=; b=GmwkKOjXMiqBmlGpub2kbRxu7MRZgSkOcm/HfS2+1g6JpfdJOOQC9BxpNHhuGalwGq blWDfo1SPtSyFVrw63so6ds81eowEKNBMhWNQdMQR0bP/+OHh1KKVp1oSjTVzb7U1SQ/ MEQXYVLBF7slYQSXebkQsdx0jFYC/IOcp8D+4LrJ+abOOIAIsvpDJWrnYJS3gRw3Cqr6 3W8jPyu1CVS0p2F+/LBFWsmPHQv9iTpspHCI2p9FXFPhGIAqP3HVPQF4hvtNyrCqPONj x0kQSVOioHqn9nX2yiRqoyUzthTMIhrKfq0ukGeO9CJnVzfeXDsdUxctzgaKVo7+m0nX KpaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=3d0AacsF3zwHZzfFIHooA4Tyh/NyS1EpaXOtIQQ4+Tw=; b=jO7KDZfzsobGJC/n420bhR2WEggUi9GVIP9Oj2o6KQvuLjFHvbJ+YIKfI/Meo1jMDL c4UmJObnLpmrKpBq0VQg8ijNts1ta1ALSHzr87QxY/qdZCwUFvuA57A0JhvveUVbaJYF zr3R2WqXpJg7EzurWdG6cMkZDTDkGojiGHB9tIR9fgsdtVIYioOi/C8RMWwA2RAekaWD 7Lg0/EEnkdGdzYDHxnRVpyE2KTkW04LRgn94XPHvr1ByedTN6AA7DtMFTd+R2/rnRo7f 80oRm9YovZjZKKv3RTLWSehxtsriUcg7oU0zwsm1BZLgtLiu5x4h7bGX8gN9kSUiomY6 aenA== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/6MPXCU0MFE39q4dQl+MS3G/3ekghklblurZlX05ovSs6l28Eqg SrvD/c6j5jkCTJAkxb2l62JDPQvriGAx X-Received: by 10.36.91.76 with SMTP id g73mr20066183itb.75.1491944366903; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 13:59:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.1.141 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Apr 2017 13:59:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1491837736392-4329184.post@n3.nabble.com> <1491926955382-4329345.post@n3.nabble.com> <1491932499300-4329367.post@n3.nabble.com> From: Dorian Hoxha Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:59:06 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Dynamic schema memory consumption To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1144ca7603ac34054cea5e87 archived-at: Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:59:31 -0000 --001a1144ca7603ac34054cea5e87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Here is a small snippet that I copy pated from Shawn Helsey (who is a core contributor I think, he's good): > One thing to note: SolrCloud begins to have performance issues when the > number of collections in the cloud reaches the low hundreds. It's not > going to scale very well with a collection per user or per mailbox > unless there aren't very many users. There are people looking into how > to scale better, but this hasn't really gone anywhere yet. Here's one > issue about it, with a lot of very dense comments: > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-7191 On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Dorian Hoxha wrote: > And this overhead depends on what? I mean, if I create an empty collection >> will it take up much heap size just for "being there" ? > > Yes. You can search on elastic-search/solr/lucene mailing lists and see > that it's true. But nobody has `empty` collections, so yours will have a > schema and some data/segments and translog. > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:41 PM, jpereira wrote: > >> The way the data is spread across the cluster is not really uniform. Most >> of >> shards have way lower than 50GB; I would say about 15% of the total shards >> have more than 50GB. >> >> >> Dorian Hoxha wrote >> > Each shard is a lucene index which has a lot of overhead. >> >> And this overhead depends on what? I mean, if I create an empty collection >> will it take up much heap size just for "being there" ? >> >> >> Dorian Hoxha wrote >> > I don't know about static/dynamic memory-issue though. >> >> I could not find anything related in the docs or the mailing list either, >> but I'm still not ready to discard this suspicion... >> >> Again, thx for your time >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble >> .com/Dynamic-schema-memory-consumption-tp4329184p4329367.html >> Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > --001a1144ca7603ac34054cea5e87--