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From Rick Leir <rl...@leirtech.com>
Subject Re: Poll: Master-Slave or SolrCloud?
Date Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:49:20 GMT
All,
I read somewhere that you should run your own ZK externally, and turn off SolrCloud. Comments
please!
Rick

On April 25, 2017 1:33:31 PM EDT, "Otis Gospodnetić" <otis.gospodnetic@gmail.com> wrote:
>This is interesting - that ZK is seen as adding so much complexity that
>it
>turns people off!
>
>If you think about it, Elasticsearch users have no choice -- except
>their
>"ZK" is built-in, hidden, so one doesn't have to think about it, at
>least
>not initially.
>
>I think I saw mentions (maybe on user or dev MLs or JIRA) about
>potentially, in the future, there only being SolrCloud mode (and
>dropping
>SolrCloud name in favour of Solr).  If the above comment from Charlie
>about
>complexity is really true for Solr users, and if that's the reason why
>we
>see so few people running SolrCloud today, perhaps that's a good signal
>for
>Solr development/priorities in terms of ZK
>hiding/automating/embedding/something...
>
>Otis
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>
>On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 4:50 AM, Charlie Hull <charlie@flax.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>> On 24/04/2017 15:58, Otis Gospodnetić wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm really really surprised here.  Back in 2013 we did a poll to see
>how
>>> people were running Master-Slave (4.x back then) and SolrCloud was a
>bit
>>> more popular than Master-Slave:
>>> https://sematext.com/blog/2013/02/25/poll-solr-cloud-or-not/
>>>
>>> Here is a fresh new poll with pretty much the same question - How do
>you
>>> run your Solr?
><https://twitter.com/sematext/status/854927627748036608> -
>>> and guess what?  SolrCloud is *not* at all a lot more prevalent than
>>> Master-Slave.
>>>
>>> We definitely see a lot more SolrCloud used by Sematext Solr
>>> consulting/support customers, so I'm a bit surprised by the results
>of
>>> this
>>> poll so far.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not particularly surprised. We regularly see clients either with
>> single nodes or elderly versions of Solr (or even Lucene). Zookeeper
>is
>> still seen as a bit of a black art. Once you move from 'how do I run
>a
>> search engine' to 'how do I manage a cluster of servers with scaling
>for
>> performance/resilience/failover' you're looking at a completely new
>set
>> of skills and challenges, which I think puts many people off.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>>
>>> Is anyone else surprised by this?  See https://twitter.com/sematext/
>>> status/854927627748036608
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Otis
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>http://sematext.com/
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Charlie Hull
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>>
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