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From <jimi.hulleg...@svensktnaringsliv.se>
Subject RE: ExtendedDisMax configuration nowhere to be found
Date Mon, 29 Feb 2016 08:20:17 GMT
There is no need to deliberately misinterpret what I wrote. What I was trying to say was that
"automagical" things don't belong in a professional environment, because it is hiding important
information from people. And this is bad as it is, but if it on top of that is the *intended*
meaning for things in solr to be "automagical", ie *deliberately* hiding information from
the solr users, well that attitude is just baffling in my eyes. I can only hope that I misunderstood
you.

/Jimi

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krupansky [mailto:jack.krupansky@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 11:44 PM
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: ExtendedDisMax configuration nowhere to be found

So, all this hard work that people have put into Solr to make it more like a Disney theme
park is just... wasted... on you? Sigh. Okay, I guess we can't please everyone.

-- Jack Krupansky

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:40 PM, <jimi.hullegard@svensktnaringsliv.se>
wrote:

> I have no problem with automatic. It is "automagicall" stuff that I 
> find a bit hard to like. Ie things that are automatic, but doesn't 
> explain how and why they are automatic. But Disney Land and Disney 
> World are actually really good examples of places where the magic 
> stuff is suitable, ie in themeparks, designed mostly for kids. In the 
> grown up world of IT, most people prefer logical and documented stuff, not things that
"just works"
> without explaining why. No offence :)
>
> /Jimi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Krupansky [mailto:jack.krupansky@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 11:31 PM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ExtendedDisMax configuration nowhere to be found
>
> Yes, it absolutely is automagic - just look at those examples in the 
> Confluence ref guide. No special request handler is needed - just the 
> normal default handler. Just the defType and qf parameters are needed 
> - as shown in the wiki examples.
>
> It really is that simple! All you have to supply is the list of fields 
> to query (qf) and your actual query text (q).
>
> I know, I know... some people just can't handle automatic. (Some 
> people hate DisneyLand/World!)
>
> -- Jack Krupansky
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 5:16 PM, <jimi.hullegard@svensktnaringsliv.se>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry, but I am still confused. I'm expecting to see some 
> > <requestHandler> tag somewhere. Why doesn't the documentation nor 
> > the example solrconfig.xml contain such a tag?
> >
> > If the edismax requestHandler is defined automatically, the 
> > documentation should explain that. Also, there should still exist 
> > some xml code that corresponds exactly to that default setup, right? 
> > That is what I'm looking for.
> >
> > For now, this edismax thing seems to work "automagically", and I 
> > prefer to understand why and how something works.
> >
> > /Jimi
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jack Krupansky [mailto:jack.krupansky@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 10:58 PM
> > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: ExtendedDisMax configuration nowhere to be found
> >
> > Consult the Confluence wiki for more recent doc:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/solr/The+Extended+DisMax
> > +Q
> > uery+Parser
> >
> > You can specify all the parameters on your query request as in the 
> > examples, or by placing the parameters in the "defaults" section for 
> > your request handler in solrconfig.xml.
> >
> >
> > -- Jack Krupansky
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 2:42 PM, 
> > <jimi.hullegard@svensktnaringsliv.se>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I want to setup ExtendedDisMax in our solr 4.6 server, but I can't 
> > > seem to find any example configuration for this. Ie the 
> > > configuration needed in solrconfig.xml. In the wiki page 
> > > http://wiki.apache.org/solr/ExtendedDisMax it simply says:
> > >
> > > "Extended DisMax is already configured in the example 
> > > configuration, with the name edismax."
> > >
> > > But this is not true for the solrconfig.xml in our setup (it only 
> > > contains an example for dismax, not edismax), and I downloaded the 
> > > latest solr zip file (solr 5.5.0), and it didn't have either 
> > > dismax or edismax in any of its solrconfig.xml files.
> > >
> > > Why is it so hard to find this configuration? Am I missing 
> > > something obvious?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > /Jimi
> > >
> >
>
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