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From Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafa...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Disappearance of post.jar from the new tutorial
Date Sun, 30 Nov 2014 16:07:49 GMT
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-6808

Mostly a placeholder for now. To get everybody's thoughts together.

Regards,
   Alex.
Personal: http://www.outerthoughts.com/ and @arafalov
Solr resources and newsletter: http://www.solr-start.com/ and @solrstart
Solr popularizers community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=6713853


On 30 November 2014 at 10:42, Jack Krupansky <jack@basetechnology.com> wrote:
> I'll post a comment on the relevant Jira as well, but it would be helpful if
> people could provide a reference to some existing "server" products that
> they are attempting to model Solr 5.0 after - or provide a rationale as to
> why no existing server products provide a model worthy of adopting for Solr.
> I mean, are we trying too reinvent the wheel here, or what?!
>
> Note: This is the Solr USER list, which isn't the best forum for development
> discussions.
>
> -- Jack Krupansky
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Erik Hatcher
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 10:25 AM
> To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Disappearance of post.jar from the new tutorial
>
>
> Indeed!   It’s always been a goal/dream of mine to have the
> tutorial/quickstart be more “integrated” like that.
>
> I’ve got some ideas/techniques in the works to make this smooth and clean.
> Coming soon (mid/late December as my plate empties for Xmas time), but by
> all means feel free to start posting JIRAs/patches on where you’d like it to
> go and we’ll sync up.  Thanks, Alexandre!
>
> Erik
>
>
>
>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:25 PM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafalov@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Could be nice to have the tutorial then as a runnable Solr core. With
>> tutorial text, perhaps, showing up as an admin-extra or some such.
>>
>> Would that be of interest?
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Alex.
>> Personal: http://www.outerthoughts.com/ and @arafalov
>> Solr resources and newsletter: http://www.solr-start.com/ and @solrstart
>> Solr popularizers community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=6713853
>>
>>
>> On 29 November 2014 at 19:53, Erik Hatcher <erik.hatcher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> You can still do the same thing with the solr-core JAR (note the
>>> CLASSPATH in the tutorial).
>>>
>>> I didn't want the new tutorial to rely on example/exampledocs directory,
>>> and to be able to run from the root directory.
>>>
>>> The embedded tutorial does need to be removed, or cloned.  Removing it
>>> seems best to avoid duplication. But it's also nice to have it built in and
>>> versioned.  Suggestions and patches welcome.
>>>
>>>   Erik
>>>
>>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 19:27, Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafalov@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> But before you could take that jar to another machine or whatever.
>>>> Plus, it run on Windows (I am reading SOLR-6435). Maybe it's opposite
>>>> and this single class does not need to be in the solr-core's jar? Or
>>>> the price of duplication is not that big. At least until we build a
>>>> full-blown client.
>>>>
>>>> And - like I mentioned in the SOLR-6077 (found it after the email),
>>>> how does this impact the tutorial we ship with Solr. Or, are we
>>>> deleting that as well?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>  Alex.
>>>> Personal: http://www.outerthoughts.com/ and @arafalov
>>>> Solr resources and newsletter: http://www.solr-start.com/ and @solrstart
>>>> Solr popularizers community: https://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=6713853
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 29 November 2014 at 19:15, Erik Hatcher <erik.hatcher@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I removed reference to it as the same class is in solr-core's JAR.
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea is to hide the details behind bin/post and before end of year
>>>>> (before 5.0 release at least) to get that taken care of.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe post.jar can go away completely, but with bin/post the internal
>>>>> details won't matter.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Erik
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 17:07, Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafalov@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody knows why the new online tutorial no longer mentions post.jar
>>>>>> : http://lucene.apache.org/solr/quickstart.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Instead the command line offered is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> java -Dauto -Drecursive org.apache.solr.util.SimplePostTool docs/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The post.jar is still there in both 4.10.2 and - so far - in 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Color me very confused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Alex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personal: http://www.outerthoughts.com/ and @arafalov
>>>>>> Solr resources and newsletter: http://www.solr-start.com/ and
>>>>>> @solrstart
>>>>>> Solr popularizers community:
>>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=6713853
>
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