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(c-98-210-72-19.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [98.210.72.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h2sm16267fkh.2.2009.11.25.11.54.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:54:56 -0800 (PST) Cc: "yonik@lucidimagination.com" Message-Id: <3BDF6C99-D22D-4B53-8DE0-61B45613871F@gmail.com> From: Ryan McKinley To: solr-dev@lucene.apache.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: Solr 1.5 or 2.0? Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:54:52 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Nov 25, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Chris Hostetter wrote: > > : > The point being: it's all been very informat up to now -- and > that's > : > probably for the best. "policies" should evolve over time based > on real > : > world situations that come up, and we're still in the process of > doing > : > that. > : > : Agreed, but now that the elephant has been identified in the room, > let's > : come up with a policy then. What are your thoughts on my proposal > (specified > : earlier in this thread)? > > The elephant has been identified, and he's in the room, but he's in > the > far corner and he's not bothering anybody. > > my personal preference (at the moment) is to leave things undefined > for > now ... i'd rather see us get to a point where we say "whoa, here is > an > actaul in the flesh cross roads where it feels wrong to release w/o > bumping the major version" and then to try and write down a policy > ahead > of time anticipating what that cross road is and how we we'll want > to deal > with it. > > if it's unspecified, it can be specified later when it actaully > becomes an > issue -- if it's specified, then people will feel like we are > beholden to > the specification, even if it doesn't wind up making as much sense in > practice. > > (yonik: you're anarchist ways clearly rubbed off on me at apachecon) > I agree with keeping it informal (for now) I agree with Mark that yes, we should do what we can to make the best choices about changes that affect compatibility. For sure. The thing about the 1.5/1.9/2.0 question that makes me uncomfortable is that it is applying the same 'official' rules from lucene to solr. I am not sure how well that maps in practice. What would a 1.9 release mean in solr? (I don't really want an answer, I just don't think it means the same thing in solr vs lucene) Again, i have nothing against calling the next release 2.0 -- I just think that 1.5 is also fine and keeps the door open for 2.0 to be a more fundamental change in solr (that may or may not happen) ryan