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From Noble Paul നോബിള്‍ नोब्ळ् <noble.p...@corp.aol.com>
Subject Re: solr 1.4 lite ?
Date Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:27:41 GMT
I am opening a JIRA issue to track this
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-1252

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Jan Høydahl<jh@cominvent.com> wrote:
> Instead of multiple releases, how about one minimal release, and a "package"
> system?
>
> An installer will be needed for this - could be as simple as a java program
> reading an XML file with package names and URLs, or as advanced as a full
> OSGI implementation as in Eclipse, or JSR277.
>
> A side-effect of this is that we could use the same installer mechonism to
> distribute 3rd party components, analyzers, dictionaries and more. After
> all, an enterprise search platform is complex enough to call for this at
> some point in time.. And version dependency control comes for free as well
> :)
>
> --
> Jan Høydahl
> Gründer & senior architect
> Cominvent AS, Stabekk, Norway
> www.cominvent.com
>
> On 15. juni. 2009, at 17.12, patrick o'leary wrote:
>
>> Those examples and features should still exist but in a batteries included
>> version
>> The lite version is just for those who want the simple basic search
>> feature.
>>
>> More than 70% of solr these days is indexing strategy or client libraries,
>> rather than search.
>> These are important, but are now beginning to clutter things up for
>> deployment.
>> It would be good to offer a lite version for those that are just
>> upgrading,
>> and a simple target
>> to build a lite-example for those hacking away on the code or distributing
>> a
>> example version.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Ian Holsman <lists@holsman.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Is bandwidth or disk space really an issue for people today ?
>>>
>>> you should be focusing on decreasing the size and speed of indexing stuff
>>> not the code-base. It's not like you guys have unlimited time to spend on
>>> this project.
>>>
>>> ps. if you don't have the examples in there, then people won't know that
>>> feature exists.
>>>
>>> and yes. i regularly copy the example schema to create a new index. I
>>> know
>>> it's bad practice, and not the most efficient schema, but it usually has
>>> the
>>> cool features enabled in it ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Noble Paul ??????? ?????? wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 for solr lite
>>>>
>>>> A lot of users are fine without those example stuff (dih , cell)
>>>>
>>>> one option is to have two different distributions. solr.zip and a
>>>> solr-min.zip
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Runo<mruno@zappos.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'd be willing to guess that the vast majority of users start off with
>>>>> the
>>>>> example app and customize from there to meet their needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your time!
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew Runo
>>>>> Software Engineer, Zappos.com
>>>>> mruno@zappos.com - 702-943-7833
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Eric Pugh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone really complained about the size of Solr?  One of the
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> like about Solr is how simple it is to get things up and running,
and
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> accesible the example directory makes everything.  When I first
played
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> DIH and Cell, everything was there.  I didn't have to chase down
>>>>>> .jar's
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> multiple places.  Maybe if it was as simple as "ant
>>>>>> build-example-cell"
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> "ant build-example-dih" then there might not be a barrier to entry
for
>>>>>> new
>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be curious to hear what percentage of folks deploy solr based
on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> example app, and how many just start out with the most stripped down
>>>>>> solr.war and build everything up from there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should be easy enough to conjure up the Ant magic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2009, at 5:55 PM, Yonik Seeley wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for bringing this up Patrick... clearly it would be
nice to
>>>>>>>> avoid (or mandate) 100MB downloads!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Yonik
>>>>>>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:50 PM, patrick o'leary <pjaol@pjaol.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just using the apache-solr example directory, it seems
to have
>>>>>>>>> gotten
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>> e.g.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $ du -sh *
>>>>>>>>> 13M     apache-solr-1.3.0
>>>>>>>>> 92M     apache-solr-1.4.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The biggest space user being example-DIH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> apache-solr-1.4.0/example
>>>>>>>>> $ du -sh *
>>>>>>>>> 4.0K    README.txt
>>>>>>>>> 5.5M    clustering
>>>>>>>>> 80K     etc
>>>>>>>>> *32M     example-DIH*
>>>>>>>>> 42K     exampleAnalysis
>>>>>>>>> 168K    exampledocs
>>>>>>>>> 13M     lib
>>>>>>>>> 52K     logs
>>>>>>>>> 118K    multicore
>>>>>>>>> *31M     solr*
>>>>>>>>> 20K     start.jar
>>>>>>>>> 12M     webapps
>>>>>>>>> 12K     work
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> solr/lib is now 30mb
>>>>>>>>> apache-solr-1.4.0/example/solr/lib
>>>>>>>>> $ ls -lhS
>>>>>>>>> total 30M
>>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None  14M Jun 10 17:08 ooxml-schemas-1.0.jar
>>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 4.3M Jun 10 17:08 icu4j-3.8.jar
>>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 3.2M Jun 10 17:08 pdfbox-0.7.3.jar
>>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 2.6M Jun 10 17:08 xmlbeans-2.3.0.jar
>>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 1.5M Jun 10 17:08 poi-3.5-beta5.jar
>>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 1.2M Jun 10 17:08 xercesImpl-2.8.1.jar
>>>>>>>>> -rwx------ 1 pjaol None 1.1M Jun 10 17:08 bcprov-jdk14-132.jar
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as opposed to 0 for 1.3.0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This pushes solr to over a 100mb download for features
that I'm
>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>>> packaged up separately as they look seldom used.
>>>>>>>>> It would make sense if there's going to be a batteries
included
>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> also have a solr-lite version.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> P
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>>>>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Search the Lucene ecosystem (Lucene/Solr/Nutch/Mahout/Tika/Droids)
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> Solr/Lucene:
>>>>>>> http://www.lucidimagination.com/search
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Eric Pugh | Principal | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467
|
>>>>>> http://www.opensourceconnections.com
>>>>>> Free/Busy: http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>



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