Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-lucene-java-user-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-java-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FEC73225 for ; Fri, 6 May 2011 07:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 85102 invoked by uid 500); 6 May 2011 07:05:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-java-user-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 85061 invoked by uid 500); 6 May 2011 07:05:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact java-user-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: java-user@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list java-user@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 85053 invoked by uid 99); 6 May 2011 07:05:25 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 06 May 2011 07:05:25 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [212.227.17.9] (HELO moutng.kundenserver.de) (212.227.17.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 06 May 2011 07:05:17 +0000 Received: from brouwer.fritz.box (srbk-5d80437d.pool.mediaWays.net [93.128.67.125]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LiGhD-1PvIc22bwZ-00nTON; Fri, 06 May 2011 09:04:54 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Subject: Re: Thoughts on Search Analytics? From: Paul Libbrecht In-Reply-To: <72890.34027.qm@web130122.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:04:52 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <2AAD3AB1-479C-4C06-AFC4-7D6D99AF9132@hoplahup.net> References: <286819.99825.qm@web130121.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <569EB578-623D-43FD-B2D9-3BCD72CFB0AC@hoplahup.net> <72890.34027.qm@web130122.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: java-user@lucene.apache.org, Otis Gospodnetic X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:AKkmTRjJVcv42kAMpxpp0tq5RIV7P7SSk9zRtY7o8qm XwnyOOOlcefStdVX6m22BtD/5fbX2yHnYzXYf5x0XAVTPA2HGY LmduQRMw9atm5xdDIRZjzMYUYDPir1niKhuVPuKOZRtfdf7vxS vwvwL3x/XERItCoGuaMBua8qDjSUsHuVglhtIhzHFWcWWdpUjB /19VejEmC/4cca1kaHDm01dyxCltjrXKrfgeOXfzM8= Le 6 mai 2011 =E0 00:20, Otis Gospodnetic a =E9crit : >> thus far, only search-testing has provided some analytics measures = for us =20 >> (precision and recall ones). We, of course, construct the test-suites = from the =20 >> logs. >=20 > Interesting. It sounds like you don't currently utilize any sort of = reporting=20 > tool that would tell you more about users' search experience other = than what you=20 > can glean from the logs (number of hits, query string, any other = params like hl,=20 > fq, etc., request handler used, and latency).? =20 Correct, there was no plan for such operation yet. It can sure be a = useful thing. I wonder if there's a lot of literature about such best practice btw.=20 This I would be very interested to hear. > So you can't really tell, for=20 > example, what percentage of queries are getting DYM suggestions or = what=20 > percentage of queries originate from DYM suggestion, right? You also = can't tell=20 > which queries result in very low click-through rate? etc. I think that one of the keys here is that we would need external = linkable queries, and in the ActiveMath engine I've been working on = there was none such unfortunately.=20 > Those are some examples of search analytics reports that I was = thinking people=20 > might be running in order to better understand how their search is = behaving and=20 > what users are experiencing. It sure is desirable but the toolset was not right-away available for = this. The simple log counts as Fran=E7ois Schiettecatte just responded in the = solr list would even be useful but again, it needs a little extra = programming. All people I met would recommend Google Analytics for this. I tend to = dislike their approach and do not know open-source, "my server side", = solutions. Hence I made this thread public to hear about "satelites" = (which are somewhat lucene related). paul= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-help@lucene.apache.org