Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-java-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 38945 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2010 06:25:30 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Jan 2010 06:25:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 72460 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jan 2010 06:25:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-java-user-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 72310 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jan 2010 06:25:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact java-user-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: java-user@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list java-user@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 72298 invoked by uid 99); 20 Jan 2010 06:25:27 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:25:27 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [206.190.38.60] (HELO web50306.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.38.60) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Wed, 20 Jan 2010 06:25:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 13081 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jan 2010 06:24:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1263968694; bh=+1t9pffLflsEACJqQqS4PU7ym8iTQF+iKCzCIuL8Kgg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DW1hg/I5LOLDFKYDa6bbwzpwhvq9tkaA1auHpHg2Xrqg1uZIgXnFlxdSOCbpoUg0n6hf/DYK7QOleZsdSRU3/PeYdzMAXi5k3wyKaOLNN0Z+l7bg/D2DZN1CcNU4s4ZcZoyNfMuDwEYAsDenDpuOaKuSNrsM0fUUdmvXebrKKf0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lSv0zDZ7vP8igrqkG93iK9DANam7+73rKABJqyfEipngDiRpN2a8LTn2bgEX+T2BxHViqTpCew/Cvd69wzeFNBtLy56m9kiSnSBCVTJKL/MPgQDdNZwxeel8w5B7KqY9nQ0Ul5WULDFyIjg1XGDa46RMiWfEEBa/Z0JhxfGezQ8=; Message-ID: <905474.12673.qm@web50306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fuqj6n0VM1m0ev2jo66e7MTdYt5W3Ha7NxZD2KQG5ln.iGbR4hM.BNAqFspYcGSZQIHG_05aZJA76B8abZRnBZB0cZKYjWotsfFQYcmCPUsqu0LMZHUs4NA4G3o44aXdD7JKtTnWhlvG9UUfyOIe5S_EwSexyVHqBIYZqL9yVVks1kstWKIkezewMJzLv_VdBSpyHwP_YhwUUCzP0rW.JSwx07fDqFTDFU6L7aeqXpRkY0CJF7t5mJXW1RfnpsoHHCRu5adHJwV_Y04eECih1hM88zGTdNJCcek3SG8O4a1bDQb7wqAK3DACwx_NkjbDbeyPjEGe6perVAfoLDNbxRSWHKfTX4RP5RspqMISuec6dYifixckYPWrUBA1PMMOYIBg57nGpqDuaC9dvcTSRaIJRH2sLnQ1b_g38WjsIb_TLJRg4JeCEmaXiHOCQWgOdLvF.gx5YkA.HWR1PUuxs6.O6WDBT6D4K1IFB2MeNIDyjjVh1ia06tQPzt3vo9Nv7kA18uqjDCSZf8nto3lH63Urfg-- Received: from [74.73.1.126] by web50306.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:24:54 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/272.7 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <672105.67952.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:24:54 -0800 (PST) From: Otis Gospodnetic Subject: Re: Lucene as a primary datastore To: java-user@lucene.apache.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Have you seen the "Hot Backups with Lucene" paper available via http://www.manning.com/hatcher3/ ? Otis -- Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Solr - Lucene - Nutch ----- Original Message ---- > From: Ganesh > To: java-user@lucene.apache.org > Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 1:13:21 AM > Subject: Re: Lucene as a primary datastore > > We have data in compound files and we use Lucene as primary database. Its > working great and much faster with millions of records. The only issue, I face > is with sorting. Lucene sorting consumes good amount of memory. I don't know > much about the MySQL/PostgreSQL database, and how they behave with millions of > records but i guess their sorting memory consumption would be less. > > It would be great, If Lucene has the ability to do backups / replication. I > don't know how to modify/use the solr script. > > Regards > Ganesh > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Otis Gospodnetic" > To: ; > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:45 AM > Subject: Re: Lucene as a primary datastore > > > > You are not alone, Guido. It's a good question. In my experience, Lucene is > as stable as MySQL/PostgreSQL in terms of its ability to hold your data and not > corrupt it. Of course, even with the most expensive databases, you'd want to > make backups. The same goes with Lucene. Nowadays, one way people make > "backups" is via replication. :) Solr users thus often get backups for free, as > do people who put copies of their data on file systems like HDFS, which tend to > have replication turned on. > > > > Otis > > -- > > Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Solr - Lucene - Nutch > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Guido Bartolucci > >> To: java-user@lucene.apache.org > >> Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 10:58:36 PM > >> Subject: Lucene as a primary datastore > >> > >> I know that the primary use case for Lucene is as an index of data > >> that can be reconstructed (e.g., from a relational database or from > >> spidering your corporate intranet). > >> > >> But, I'm curious if anyone uses Lucene as their primary datastore for > >> their gold data. Is it good enough? > >> > >> Would anyone consider (or do people already) store data in Lucene > >> that, if it was lost, would destroy their business? And no, I'm not > >> suggesting that you don't back up this data, I'm just curious if there > >> are problems with using Lucene in this way. Are there subtle > >> corruptions that might show up in Lucene that wouldn't show up in > >> Oracle or MySQL? > >> > >> I'm considering using Lucene in this way but I haven't been able to > >> find any documentation describing this use case. Are there any studies > >> of Lucene vs MySQL running for N years comparing the corruptions and > >> recovery times? > >> > >> Am I just ignorant and scared of Lucene and too trusting of Oracle and MySQL? > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> -guido. > >> > >> (BTW, I did find a similar question asked back in 2007 in the archives > >> but it doesn't really answer my question) > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-help@lucene.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-help@lucene.apache.org > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://in.messenger.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-help@lucene.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-help@lucene.apache.org