Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-java-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 13751 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2005 19:44:22 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Jul 2005 19:44:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 83386 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jul 2005 19:44:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-java-user-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 83266 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jul 2005 19:44:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact java-user-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: java-user@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list java-user@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 83252 invoked by uid 99); 12 Jul 2005 19:44:13 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:44:13 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [64.95.77.96] (HELO phobos.net-temps.com) (64.95.77.96) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:44:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.net-temps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764FD3F48B; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phobos.net-temps.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (phobos.net-temps.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18450-10; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nbrackett (europa [192.168.1.21]) by phobos.net-temps.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A9C843F487 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:44:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Nathan Brackett" To: Subject: RE: Search deadlocking under load Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:46:28 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at net-temps.com X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Otis, After further testing it turns out that the 'deadlock' we're encountering is not a deadlock at all, but a result of resin hitting its maximum number of allowed threads. We bumped up the max-threads in the config and it fixed the problem for a certain amount of load, but we'd much prefer to go after the source of the problem, namely: As the number of threads hitting lucene increases, contention for locks increases, meaning the average response time decreases. This places us in a downward spiral of performance because as the incoming number of hits per second stays constant, the response time decreases, meaning that the total number of threads inside resin doing work will increase. This problem compounds itself, escalating the number of threads in resin until we crash. Admittedly this is a pretty harsh test (~~20 hits per second triggering complex searches, which starts fine but then escalates to > 150 threads as processing slows down but number of incoming hits per second does not) Our ultimate goal, however, is to have each search be completely and 100% parallel. The point of contention seems to be the method below: FSDirectory.java:486 (class FSInputStream) protected final void readInternal(byte[] b, int offset, int len) throws IOException { synchronized (file) { long position = getFilePointer(); if (position != file.position) { file.seek(position); file.position = position; } int total = 0; do { int i = file.read(b, offset+total, len-total); if (i == -1) throw new IOException("read past EOF"); file.position += i; total += i; } while (total < len); } } The threads are usually all lined up to reach this. Why are so many threads backed up behind the same instance of FSInputStream.readInternal? Shouldn't each search have a different input stream? What would you suggest as the best path to achieve 100% parallel searching? Here's a sample of our thread dump, you can see 2 threads waiting for the same FSInputStream$Descriptor (which is the synchronized(file) above): "tcpConnection-8080-11" daemon prio=5 tid=0x08304600 nid=0x8304800 waiting for monitor entry [bf494000..bf494d08] at org.apache.lucene.store.FSInputStream.readInternal(FSDirectory.java:412) - waiting to lock <0x2f2b7a38> (a org.apache.lucene.store.FSInputStream$Descriptor) at org.apache.lucene.store.InputStream.refill(InputStream.java:158) at org.apache.lucene.store.InputStream.readByte(InputStream.java:43) at org.apache.lucene.store.InputStream.readVInt(InputStream.java:83) at org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentTermDocs.read(SegmentTermDocs.java:126) at org.apache.lucene.search.TermScorer.next(TermScorer.java:55) at org.apache.lucene.search.BooleanScorer.next(BooleanScorer.java:112) at org.apache.lucene.search.Scorer.score(Scorer.java:37) at org.apache.lucene.search.IndexSearcher.search(IndexSearcher.java:92) at org.apache.lucene.search.Hits.getMoreDocs(Hits.java:64) at org.apache.lucene.search.Hits.(Hits.java:43) at org.apache.lucene.search.Searcher.search(Searcher.java:33) at org.apache.lucene.search.Searcher.search(Searcher.java:27) at com.nettemps.search.backend.SingleIndexManager.search(SingleIndexManager.jav a:335) at com.nettemps.search.backend.IndexAccessControl.doSearch(IndexAccessControl.j ava:100) "tcpConnection-8080-10" daemon prio=5 tid=0x08336800 nid=0x8336a00 waiting for monitor entry [bf4d5000..bf4d5d08] at org.apache.lucene.store.FSInputStream.readInternal(FSDirectory.java:412) - waiting to lock <0x2f2b7a38> (a org.apache.lucene.store.FSInputStream$Descriptor) at org.apache.lucene.store.InputStream.refill(InputStream.java:158) at org.apache.lucene.store.InputStream.readByte(InputStream.java:43) at org.apache.lucene.store.InputStream.readVInt(InputStream.java:83) at org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentTermDocs.read(SegmentTermDocs.java:126) at org.apache.lucene.search.TermScorer.next(TermScorer.java:55) at org.apache.lucene.search.BooleanScorer.next(BooleanScorer.java:112) at org.apache.lucene.search.Scorer.score(Scorer.java:37) at org.apache.lucene.search.IndexSearcher.search(IndexSearcher.java:92) at org.apache.lucene.search.Hits.getMoreDocs(Hits.java:64) at org.apache.lucene.search.Hits.(Hits.java:43) at org.apache.lucene.search.Searcher.search(Searcher.java:33) at org.apache.lucene.search.Searcher.search(Searcher.java:27) at com.nettemps.search.backend.SingleIndexManager.search(SingleIndexManager.jav a:335) -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Brackett [mailto:nbrackett@net-temps.com] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 5:43 PM To: java-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: RE: Search deadlocking under load Thanks for the advice. That ought to reduce contention a bit in that particular method. I've been reviewing a large amount of thread dumps today and I was wondering if it's common to see many threads that look like this: "tcpConnection-8080-20" daemon prio=5 tid=0x081ba000 nid=0x810ac00 waiting for monitor entry [bf24b000..bf24bd20] at org.apache.lucene.index.CompoundFileReader$CSInputStream.readInternal(Compou ndFileReader.java:216) - waiting to lock <0x2ee24c48> (a org.apache.lucene.store.FSInputStream) When I get the deadlock situation, I often see a few of these lying around, but no matching thread that actually has the lock on 0x2ee24c48 in the dump. Is this normal? Not really a thread dump pro. -----Original Message----- From: Otis Gospodnetic [mailto:otis_gospodnetic@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 1:57 PM To: java-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: RE: Search deadlocking under load Hi Nick, Without looking at the source of that method, I'd suggest first trying the multifile index format (you can easily convert to it by setting the new format on IndexWriter and optimizing it). I'd be interested to know if this eliminates the problem, or at least makes it harder to hit. Otis --- Nathan Brackett wrote: > Hey Otis, > > Thanks for the hasty response and apologies for my delayed response. > It was > Friday and time to go :) > > The queries we're running are very varied (wildcard, phrase, normal). > The > index is only about a 1/2 gig in size (maybe 250,000 documents). The > machine > is running FreeBSD 5.3 with ~2 gig RAM. > > I got a thread dump from right around the time that the process would > deadlock and not come back and I noticed that almost all of the > threads were > waiting on the same method. Here's what the trace looks like: (small > sample > for the sake of brevity...the real dump is huge) > > tcpConnection-8080-32: > [1] > org.apache.lucene.index.CompoundFileReader$CSInputStream.readInternal > (CompoundFileReader.java:217) > [2] org.apache.lucene.store.InputStream.refill > (InputStream.java:158) > [3] org.apache.lucene.store.InputStream.readByte > (InputStream.java:43) > [4] org.apache.lucene.store.InputStream.readVInt > (InputStream.java:83) > [5] org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentTermDocs.read > (SegmentTermDocs.java:126) > [6] org.apache.lucene.search.TermScorer.next (TermScorer.java:55) > [7] org.apache.lucene.search.BooleanScorer.next > (BooleanScorer.java:112) > [8] org.apache.lucene.search.Scorer.score (Scorer.java:37) > [9] org.apache.lucene.search.IndexSearcher.search > (IndexSearcher.java:92) > [10] org.apache.lucene.search.Hits.getMoreDocs (Hits.java:64) > [11] org.apache.lucene.search.Hits. (Hits.java:43) > [12] org.apache.lucene.search.Searcher.search (Searcher.java:33) > [13] org.apache.lucene.search.Searcher.search (Searcher.java:27) > [14] com.nettemps.search.backend.SingleIndexManager.search > (SingleIndexManager.java:335) > [15] com.nettemps.search.backend.IndexAccessControl.doSearch > (IndexAccessControl.java:100) > [16] com.nettemps.search.server.SearchServerImpl.searchResumes > (SearchServerImpl.java:402) > [17] > com.nettemps.search.server.SearchServerReadOnly_Tie.invoke_searchResumes > (SearchServerReadOnly_Tie.java:93) > [18] > com.nettemps.search.server.SearchServerReadOnly_Tie.processingHook > (SearchServerReadOnly_Tie.java:298) > [19] com.sun.xml.rpc.server.StreamingHandler.handle > (StreamingHandler.java:321) > [20] com.sun.xml.rpc.server.http.JAXRPCServletDelegate.doPost > (JAXRPCServletDelegate.java:443) > [21] com.sun.xml.rpc.server.http.JAXRPCServlet.doPost > (JAXRPCServlet.java:102) > [22] javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service (HttpServlet.java:165) > [23] javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service (HttpServlet.java:103) > [24] com.caucho.server.http.FilterChainServlet.doFilter > (FilterChainServlet.java:96) > [25] com.caucho.server.http.Invocation.service > (Invocation.java:315) > [26] com.caucho.server.http.CacheInvocation.service > (CacheInvocation.java:135) > [27] com.caucho.server.http.HttpRequest.handleRequest > (HttpRequest.java:253) > [28] com.caucho.server.http.HttpRequest.handleConnection > (HttpRequest.java:170) > [29] com.caucho.server.TcpConnection.run (TcpConnection.java:139) > [30] java.lang.Thread.run (Thread.java:534) > > I took a look at that readInternal method and saw that the contention > is > around an InputStream that I assume reads from the actual index file > and > returns it for use by the method. We are running many threads that > are > attempting to do searches at the same time (roughly 30 - 35), so that > explains why the search times would go up. > > In an attempt to reduce the amount of contention, we synchronized our > search > method (the one that makes the actual call to Lucene's search: [14] > com.nettemps.search.backend.SingleIndexManager.search > (SingleIndexManager.java:335)). This also caused the same results > when hit > with too many threads. > > We're really stuck at this point as to what to try. Any advice? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Otis Gospodnetic [mailto:otis_gospodnetic@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:40 PM > To: java-user@lucene.apache.org > Subject: Re: Search deadlocking under load > > > Nathan, > > 3) is the recommended usage. > Your index is on an NFS share, which means you are searching it over > the network. Make it local, and you should see performance > improvements. Local or remove, it makes sense that searches take > longer to execute, and the load goes up. Yes, it shouldn't deadlock. > You shouldn't need to synchronize access to IndexSearcher. > When your JVM locks up next time, kill it, get the thread dump, and > send it to the list, so we can try to remove the bottleneck, if > that's > possible. > > How many queries/second do you run, and what kinds of queries are > they, > how big is your index and what kind of hardware (disks, RAM, CPU) are > you using? > > Otis > > --- Nathan Brackett wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > We're looking to use Lucene as the back end to our website and > we're > > running > > into an unusual deadlocking problem. > > > > For testing purposes, we're just running one web server (threaded > > environment) against an index mounted on an NFS share. This machine > > performs > > searches only against this index so it's not being touched. We have > > tried a > > few different models so far: > > > > 1) Pooling IndexSearcher objects: Occasionally we would run into > > OutOfMemory > > problems as we would not block if a request came through and all > > IndexSearchers were already checked out, we would just create a > > temporary > > one and then dispose of it once it was returned to the pool. > > > > 2) Create a new IndexSearcher each time: Every request to search > > would > > create an IndexSearcher object. This quickly gave OutOfMemory > errors, > > even > > when we would close them out directly after. > > > > 3) Use a global IndexSearcher: This is the model we're working with > > now. The > > model holds up fine under low-moderate load and is, in fact, much > > faster at > > searching (probably due to some caching mechanism). Under heavy > load > > though, > > the CPU will spike up to 99% and never come back down until we kill > > -9 the > > process. Also, as you ramp the load, we've discovered that search > > times go > > up as well. Searches will generally come back after 40ms, but as > the > > load > > goes up the searches don't come back for up to 20 seconds. > > > > We've been attempting to find where the problem is for the last > week > > with no > > luck. Our index is optimized, so there is only one file. Do we need > > to > > synchronize access to the global IndexSearcher so that only one > > search can > > run at a time? That poses a bit of a problem as if a particular > > search takes > > a long time, all others will wait. This problem does not look like > an > > OutOrMemory error because the memory usage when the spike occurs is > > usually > > in the range of 150meg used with a ceiling of 650meg. Anyone else > > experiencing any problems like this or have any idea where we > should > > be > > looking? 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