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From Aad Nales <>
Subject Re: Configurable indexing of an RDBMS, has it been done before?
Date Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:46:26 GMT
Not sure that I get everything:

In the framework that we have built we use a 'simple' object mapping 
that connects a database table with an object and implicetely with a 
cache. It is build on top of JDBC.

The key fields of the database are used to create a DbKey element a 
simple array of Object's. Through our mapping layer you can read and 
write objects as atomic elements the layer takes care of stuff like 
inheritance and delegation. (e.g. our object model has Items, Versions 
and States, reading an item creates an ItemBean, a VersionBean with the 
current version and a StateBean with the Version most current state).

The framework foresees in a number of different applications e.g. Forum, 
News, Questionaires, Pages and then some each inherited from Item. What 
we needed was an indexing approach that could do the following:

1. When an Page, Questionnaire, NewsItem etc. was updated this needed to 
be reflected in the search results directly.
2. Every now and then (say once per night) a batch update was needed.

During the creation of our search solution we encountered a number of 

1. Double results.
When you execute a search every hit counts but if a forum thread 
consists of 200 items then 200 hits on reply's does not really add to 
the users feeling of service. We added the concept of 'key' field to the 
index. Double results are filtered out only the highest hit is displayed.

2. Delegate objects
A thread consists of messages. The content of each message should be in 
the index. In order to solve this we create detailers. A detailer is 
called with a DbKey and returns a set of Objects. Each individual object 
is parsed (by calling the detailer again) based on the rules that are 
defined in search.xml (see previous mail).

3. Batch Jobs
To optimize the index now and then we need to reindex the whole thing. 
This is done by executing a query and getting the DbKey elements. (This 
by the way is done in a so called DbMap as spare implementation a 
HashMap where objects are only loaded into the cache when a getValue() 
is called on it's entry). The query is called on the Item 'table'. The 
parsing is done by calling the apprioriate detailers per Item type.

Now coming back to our discussion.

- The cache/mapping layer does not care much for the type of database 
since it is build on JDBC and does not use any stored procedures or 
constraints other than primary keys.

- Searches are executed on an object that assures that no reader or 
writers are active.

- The result of a search is given back as Map. This way the uri that is 
created as part of the result can be completely ignored if your 
application so pleases.

Eriks suggestions:

Per field analyzers and wrappers are not a problem and could very easily 
be added to this framework.

Creating an object as a result is possible i guess, but does this not 
defeat the purpose of a search index somewhat? The information in the 
index especially when set against a database are to present those fields 
that are interesting to be searched.

The second part i don't quite 'get' is how would the 'dot' mapping work 
"" for instance? I can see it writing to the index 
but not creating object returning from a call? Or would this simply be a 
key field that is then used as part of query? Using it to navigate an 
object structure is quite feasible especially if you would create a key. 
E.g. I would store a key in lucene called: "company.role.person" and a 
related field with the csv values "XYZ, VP, Jenssen". Then if the 
company 'object' can be derived from so kind of persistent object the 
result of the query would be:


The stuff we build so far would be able to cope with something like that 
i guess, although quite some elements would still be missing. Using 
Lucene this way more or less creates a 'unified' index.

Also: I have not been able to look a Squirrel.


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