From issues-return-3930-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@lucene.apache.org Wed Nov 6 03:51:05 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C335180648 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 04:51:05 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 77709 invoked by uid 500); 6 Nov 2019 03:51:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact issues-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list issues@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 77677 invoked by uid 99); 6 Nov 2019 03:51:02 -0000 Received: from mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org (HELO mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.139) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 03:51:02 +0000 Received: from jira-he-de.apache.org (static.172.67.40.188.clients.your-server.de [188.40.67.172]) by mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 6C3B5E30BD for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 03:51:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jira-he-de.apache.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jira-he-de.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at jira-he-de.apache.org) with ESMTP id 753907805BA for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2019 03:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 03:51:00 +0000 (UTC) From: "Mark Miller (Jira)" To: issues@lucene.apache.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [jira] [Commented] (SOLR-13888) SolrCloud 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-JIRA-FingerPrint: 30527f35849b9dde25b450d4833f0394 [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-13888?page=3Dcom.atlassian= .jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=3D1696= 8057#comment-16968057 ]=20 Mark Miller commented on SOLR-13888: ------------------------------------ {quote}, I=E2=80=99m suggesting that we improve the architecture by separat= ing different concerns to different modules.=C2=A0 {quote} Like I said, "So I'm happy if you do modules, lots of good things to do" There are a million things to do that will improve the project, that will m= ake it easier to do good things with the project. If you want to add them a= s suggestions to that doc for example, that's great. Here, I am very focused on what is necessary and useful for this problem. T= hat's where I'm just shirking modules. If you want to talk to me about modu= les in a module JIRA, maybe I have some interesting thing to say, here I do= n't think it applies. And I could be wrong, I'm just voicing my=C2=A0 thoug= hts. My focus is very narrow. Fix the problem. Do it in a way that allows a futu= re. That future is then up to people with more investment in that side than= me. > SolrCloud 2 > ----------- > > Key: SOLR-13888 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-13888 > Project: Solr > Issue Type: Task > Security Level: Public(Default Security Level. Issues are Public)=20 > Reporter: Mark Miller > Assignee: Mark Miller > Priority: Major > Attachments: solrscreen.png > > > As devs discuss dropping the SolrCloud name on the dev list, here is an i= ssue titled SolrCloud 2. > A couple times now I've pulled on the sweater thread that is our broken t= ests. It leads to one place - SolrCloud is sick and devs are adding spotty = code on top of it at a rate that will lead to the system falling in on itse= lf. As it is, it's a very slow, very inefficient, very unreliable, very bug= gy system. > This is not why I am here. This is the opposite of why I am here. > So please, let's stop. We can't build on that thing as it is. > =C2=A0 > I need some time, I lost a lot of work at one point, the scope has expand= ed since I realized how problematic some things really are, but I have an a= lternative path that is not so duct tape and straw. As the building climbs,= that foundation is going to kill us all. > =C2=A0 > This i not about an architecture change - the architecture is fine. The i= mplementation is broken and getting worse. -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.4#803005) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-help@lucene.apache.org