Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CCD3ED1CB for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 51625 invoked by uid 500); 14 Sep 2012 18:46:00 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 51539 invoked by uid 500); 14 Sep 2012 18:45:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 51526 invoked by uid 99); 14 Sep 2012 18:45:59 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:45:59 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [128.230.18.82] (HELO smtp1.syr.edu) (128.230.18.82) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:45:50 +0000 Received: from suex10-hub-01.ad.syr.edu ([128.230.108.124]) by smtp1.syr.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8EIjSo3029608 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:45:29 -0400 Received: from SUEX10-MBX-03.ad.syr.edu ([128.230.108.186]) by suex10-hub-01.ad.syr.edu ([128.230.108.124]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:45:29 -0400 From: Steven A Rowe To: "general@lucene.apache.org" Subject: RE: September Board Report Due Thread-Topic: September Board Report Due Thread-Index: Ac2SPDk2gfUF2CSWS+a8onfSoE6uXwAhdyOAAAZ3NnA= Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:45:28 +0000 Message-ID: <6C78E97C707B5B4C8CC61D44F87545863B897F@SUEX10-mbx-03.ad.syr.edu> References: <6C78E97C707B5B4C8CC61D44F87545863B72D1@SUEX10-mbx-03.ad.syr.edu> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [128.230.84.130] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-09-14_07:2012-09-14,2012-09-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Reason: safe X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I got two (maybe automated?) reminder emails, but they were sent to me pers= onally, and not to the PMC. I will forward them to the PMC. I'm personally fine with Lucene/Solr not putting TMs on logos. But I think= we should have a record of voting on this. I'll start a thread on dev@l.a= .o. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Chris Hostetter [mailto:hossman_lucene@fucit.org]=20 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 1:44 PM To: general@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: September Board Report Due : I'm overdue (it was due on Wednesday the 12th), so I'd like to send this= =20 : to the board later today (Friday the 14th). If you need more time,=20 : please say so ASAP. Is the PMC no longer getting automated emails informing us of hte=20 reporting date, or did mine just get lost in the mail? https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/board-reports/2012/board-report-sep= tember.txt seems fine to me. : I'd appreciate any opinions about the above list. I recall seeing some=20 : discussion about TMs' inclusion in logos a while back, but I don't=20 : remember whether there was any resolution - is this controversial? The=20 : above-linked requirements seem pretty unambiguous about the need to do=20 : this. there was a lot of discussion, much of it contoversial since there didn't=20 seem to be any definitive rhyme/reason/purpose for adding TM to the logos=20 and people thought it made them look ugly. A concrete question that was=20 never answsered: why should we add TM to all the logos when (aparently)=20 you can have trademark a logo w/cluttering that logo by putting "TM" in it= =20 every time you use it. (ie: the google logo on on google.com, the ford=20 logo on ford.com, etc...) It's worth noting as an specific example: the ASF feather on=20 www.apache.org still does not include a "TM" even though the sentence=20 "Apache and the Apache feather logo are trademarks of The Apache Software=20 Foundation" has been on the home page for as long as i can remember. -Hoss