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From Simon Willnauer <simon.willna...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: Special Board Report for May 2011
Date Fri, 13 May 2011 18:35:17 GMT
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Chris Hostetter
<hossman_lucene@fucit.org> wrote:
>
> : > "private" - or is this different somehow? What's difference between a
> : > private talk between two or three people in a bar at Lucene Revolution
> : > without somebody writing down a log? A log can also be written if somebody
> : > else talks with me in a private Skype chat!
>
> There is absolutely no differnce.
>
> : reign in a little - but let's be honest - two developers getting
> : together and speeding through some stuff is no different than one dev
> : thinking through a lot on his own. You then bring it to the mailing list
> : since otherwise it didn't happen. Other than that, we are all big boys
>
> Exactly.
>
> There is nothing wrong, and has never been anything wrong, with large
> groups of people meeting in person to discuss lucene, or two people having
> private conversations about lucene, or talking about lucene on IRC.
>
> There is nothing wrong, and has never been anything worng, with large
> groups of people meeting in person to discuss technical changes to lucene,
> or two people having private conversations about technical cahnges to
> lucene, or talking about technical changes to lucene on IRC.
>
> There is nothing wrong, and has never been anything worng, with large
> groups of people meeting in person to discuss project planning/vision of
> lucene, or two people having private conversations about project
> planning/vision to lucene, or talking about project planning/vision of
> lucene on IRC.
>
> What is wrong, and what has always been wrong, is anyone, anywhere, making
> *decisions* about any of these things, that is not on the list.
>
> It doesn't matter how many committers/PMC members are involved, it doesn't
> matter if it's logged or not, if people have a discussion it's fine -- but
> if that discussion becomes a "decision" it's wrong.  If two or more people
> on IRC (or at apachecon, or at a meetup, or standing by the water cooler
> at work) are chatting and agree that it would probably be a good idea to
> do X, Y, and Z that is fine -- as long as that is then sumiarzed in an
> email or jira issue and other people have a chance to way in and give
> their opinions.
>
> The moment someone says "it was decided on irc (or at apachecon, or at
> bar, or in a meeting) that we should do X, Y, and Z" that is wrong.
>
> I don't give a fuck if IRC is logged, i don't give a fuck if someone took
> minutes at a meetup, it's wrong -- it's not how things are done.

Why are we discussing that? honestly, has it happen here in lucene land?

Not that I know that we made decisions not mentioned on the list or in
jira! I would appreciate it if we concentrate on relevant things
again.

simon
>
>
>
> -Hoss
>

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