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From Michael Busch <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Create Solr TLP
Date Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:32:14 GMT
-1 of course

We can not just randomly merge/unmerge Lucene/Solr whenever a problem 
comes up. It will still be the same community and therefore we need to 
fix the way we interact with each other.

Could we all please try to be less stubborn and accusing and figure this 
out? Obviously things like vetoing refactorings to move code into Lucene 
is very counterproductive. But also Solr progress shouldn't suffer.

Hanging out with you guys at Apachecons always felt to me like we were 
all good friends. Reading these discussions makes me think we can't 
stand each other. Let's stop this passive-aggressive silliness and find 
a good solution.

On 4/26/11 11:50 AM, Yonik Seeley wrote:
> A single merged project works only when people are relatively on the same page,
> and when people feel it's mutually beneficial.  Recent events make it
> clear that that
> is no longer the case.
> Improvements to Solr have been recently blocked and reverted on the
> grounds that the new functionality was not immediately available to
> non-Solr users.
> This was obviously never part of the original idea (well actually - it was
> considered but rejected as too onerous).  But the past doesn't matter as
> much as the present - about how people chose to act and interpret
> things today.
> Some people warned us against merging at the start, and I guess it
> turns out they were right.
> I no longer feel it's in Solr's best interests to remain under the same
> PMC as Lucene-Java, and I know some other committers who have said
> they feel like Lucene got the short end of the stick.  But rather than
> arguing about who's right (maybe both?) since enough of us feel it's no longer
> mutually beneficial, we should stop fighting and just go our separate
> ways.
> Please VOTE to create a new Apache Solr TLP.
> Here's my +1
> -Yonik

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