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From Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Create Solr TLP
Date Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:18:20 GMT
Oh this is open source all right - at least based on the history of many of the projects I
know. Its just not one of the prettier moments.

On Apr 26, 2011, at 5:15 PM, Ted Dunning wrote:

> -1 (non-binding since I am only a contributor, not a committer)
> 
> I have looked at a bunch of the discussions on JIRA and they frankly look
> pretty silly.  How can anyone seriously say that refactoring to promote
> re-use is bad?  How can somebody veto a code contribution that adds
> important and useful capabilities?
> 
> Seriously, this looks like kindergarten all over again (these are *my*
> marbles, I am going home).  It doesn't look like open source at all.
> 
> Loosen up.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Steven A Rowe <sarowe@syr.edu> wrote:
> 
>> -1
>> 
>> I think real compromise is in order, rather than serial confrontation
>> ending in divorce.
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: yseeley@gmail.com [mailto:yseeley@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Yonik
>>> Seeley
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 2:50 PM
>>> To: general@lucene.apache.org
>>> Subject: [VOTE] Create Solr TLP
>>> 
>>> A single merged project works only when people are relatively on the same
>>> page,
>>> and when people feel it's mutually beneficial.  Recent events make it
>>> clear that that
>>> is no longer the case.
>>> 
>>> Improvements to Solr have been recently blocked and reverted on the
>>> grounds that the new functionality was not immediately available to
>>> non-Solr users.
>>> This was obviously never part of the original idea (well actually - it
>>> was
>>> considered but rejected as too onerous).  But the past doesn't matter as
>>> much as the present - about how people chose to act and interpret
>>> things today.
>>> 
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-2272
>>> http://markmail.org/message/unrvjfudcbgqatsy
>>> 
>>> Some people warned us against merging at the start, and I guess it
>>> turns out they were right.
>>> 
>>> I no longer feel it's in Solr's best interests to remain under the same
>>> PMC as Lucene-Java, and I know some other committers who have said
>>> they feel like Lucene got the short end of the stick.  But rather than
>>> arguing about who's right (maybe both?) since enough of us feel it's no
>>> longer
>>> mutually beneficial, we should stop fighting and just go our separate
>>> ways.
>>> 
>>> Please VOTE to create a new Apache Solr TLP.
>>> 
>>> Here's my +1
>>> 
>>> -Yonik
>> 

- Mark Miller
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