Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 33076 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2010 17:51:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 4 Mar 2010 17:51:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 20728 invoked by uid 500); 4 Mar 2010 17:51:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 20644 invoked by uid 500); 4 Mar 2010 17:51:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 20636 invoked by uid 99); 4 Mar 2010 17:51:45 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:51:45 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of ted.dunning@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.48 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.48] (HELO mail-pw0-f48.google.com) (209.85.160.48) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:51:39 +0000 Received: by pwi6 with SMTP id 6so1664421pwi.35 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:51:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=W6bdjOqejc4Dk/Ebk6abt0b5RwjQ5df8oVaCwvReFSI=; b=jnDC1Ja/sWccipuNRB1B3nTCPhPN6+Rd8L+PkTL7wNBEqOIcL0T1kYkrIFfoCufVGI RBx3CKBhGqTvI2L06jJn5I5v8YxmR4TMF4bTAbgJWtCnBmQzwcBcbSQ5k+VKO7zJ+RcO BohXVh73DsrB8Rxe5iy461SdP02LPbdCfgMNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=JjwTGv3BgQg6idQKpA+5htjCyV2C6igFL8YZvpO6A9dOWNLhJUZC5n+zK07fPfI3Yn XKZXTyVQtUHUKYBJ/9UymsuV4Nn+1nhprkIDrbem4ZrnuMQ0zEzu7JgEiggmNSJQ2Wey toj2UKbt7lxUS34i5lzSsbtF0GWUNTbrVAFhE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.90.20 with SMTP id s20mr2503203rvl.80.1267725078762; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:51:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3b5f72031003031548v29cdf72ct62d3c3d3cd2a6c0@mail.gmail.com> <4B8EF6B9.9080001@gmail.com> <4B8EF828.3080903@gmail.com> <4B8F01AE.8070609@gmail.com> <4B8F08A1.6070200@gmail.com> <4B8F2546.6040505@gmail.com> <004201cabb6a$f6698b40$e33ca1c0$@de> From: Ted Dunning Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:50:58 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [VOTE] merge lucene/solr development To: general@lucene.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd11310fe13e40480fd3e79 --000e0cd11310fe13e40480fd3e79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Extending this with a few more specific steps: a) merge dev list and committers b) have lucene build trigger solr build and test c) have lucene release trigger solr release shortly afterwards d) completely synchronize builds If these steps (as steps, not as a bundle) are what the proposal really is about, then it might win over some of the negative votes. Surely there is value in the first two steps and little controversy. Surely also (c) is in the hands of the solr-focused devs and would be a natural outgrowth of (b). If (d) winds up in the far future because people are happy, then how can that be objectionable. A phrase I haven't heard yet is "progress, not perfection". I thought that was the Lucene development motto. Can't it be applied here? On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Chris Hostetter wrote: > Why don't we just start by attempting to have a common dev list and > merging committers, in the hopes that it will promote better communication > about features up and down the stack, and better bug > fixing/refactoring/modularization -- then see if that leads us to a point > where it makes sense to more tightly couple the build systems and > releases? > -- Ted Dunning, CTO DeepDyve --000e0cd11310fe13e40480fd3e79--