Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 64930 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2010 10:11:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 9 Mar 2010 10:11:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 47765 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2010 10:10:39 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 47665 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2010 10:10:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 47657 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2010 10:10:39 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:10:39 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=10.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [72.167.82.87] (HELO p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net) (72.167.82.87) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:10:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 11993 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2010 10:10:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (81.219.54.251) by p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.87) with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2010 10:10:15 -0000 Message-ID: <4B961E80.8070205@getopt.org> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:10:08 +0100 From: Andrzej Bialecki User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] merge lucene/solr development (take 3) References: <4B95B71D.5050907@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2010-03-09 05:24, Grant Ingersoll wrote: > In the end, for me anyway, the current separation hurts Lucene a good > deal as much as it hurts Solr, if not more. Likewise, I wish some of > the Nutch committers would speak up, as I'm sure there are some > pieces of Nutch that are "core" too, but for a lack of visibility > down lower in Lucene committer wise, especially as Nutch as looking > to refactor into more components. Obviously not the crawling stuff, > but perhaps some of Nutch's analyzer and low level Lucene stuff would > make sense to be pushed lower in the stack. With my Nutch hat on, I'm -0 to this current vote. If the primary devs really insist on going this way, so be it, but I think that long-term it brings more challenges than it solves, among them the danger that Lucene ceases to be a general purpose Java search library (where being Java-centric is nothing wrong) and caters too much to Solr's needs at the expense of other projects. Re: Nutch components - those that are reusable in Lucene or Solr contexts eventually find their way to respective projects, witness e.g. CommonGrams. Other stuff makes sense only in Nutch and it would be a mistake to push it by force to become e.g. a contrib module in Lucene if it's not applicable to a majority of Lucene community. Refactoring to increase reuse doesn't mean we have to merge Nutch with Lucene, it's just a cleaner separation of concerns. Anyway, that's not the topic of the current vote. -- Best regards, Andrzej Bialecki <>< ___. ___ ___ ___ _ _ __________________________________ [__ || __|__/|__||\/| Information Retrieval, Semantic Web ___|||__|| \| || | Embedded Unix, System Integration http://www.sigram.com Contact: info at sigram dot com