Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 66212 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2009 17:50:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Dec 2009 17:50:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 87549 invoked by uid 500); 28 Dec 2009 17:49:58 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 87472 invoked by uid 500); 28 Dec 2009 17:49:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 87451 invoked by uid 99); 28 Dec 2009 17:49:58 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:49:58 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of ryantxu@gmail.com designates 74.125.92.25 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.92.25] (HELO qw-out-2122.google.com) (74.125.92.25) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:49:47 +0000 Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so610481qwi.53 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:49:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=75/pxRkwHbQpU6E+KVwbETPrU1nsvCmllvIYYufLEqk=; b=FRyoT0mxDAj/aqZViISxVLzi+8tutizWiLxXwW+XiBkrG4kHupn3IQeZ7N0H+dH7H9 AF20+oWcNtgwzZGYH2DP4bgpsGSGcUzHikWf3lIe+VNylq/bEQil0vmFvqPw5qQ2bmNH SidCZGBUM2odLaNYlsMLpUy0txT4BsLTFwHpE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=N4XfiAEaFj5ykyFL8LwMjBp4SR05Bt6RUJUxJxAh1300YQk2Bnp8V7104lvsCioL/y Q+KQIqOoQTnXxjoNF+ytn/G9WA8AZjdeOv/pL8p0a6m9V3A9kooslSHwFD3mVLXkBtUV oC1rKRnRtoiPuqIY5qZyP1ZJES0TWhGsUML04= Received: by 10.224.102.139 with SMTP id g11mr7559438qao.322.1262022566538; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:49:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.5? ([66.92.161.165]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 26sm32245592qwa.50.2009.12.28.09.49.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:49:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <778FAFB7-CF06-4DA8-8460-3CE19C42FB0F@gmail.com> From: Ryan McKinley To: general@lucene.apache.org In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [spatial] Cartesian "Tiers" nomenclature Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:49:24 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) I like "tile" best -- this has a direct mapping to common map caching systems (google/bing/tms/WorldWind) 'Grid' is also good. In OpenLayers, 'grid' is the parent, and tile based variations extend 'grid'. "Tier" is interesting since it implies various levels, but i think using a more common term is better for a wider audience. "Cartesian"? The common tiling schemes are all cartesian (planar), however i think much of the same mechanics can be used to to tile spherical space. Consider something like: HEALPix http://healpix.jpl.nasa.gov/ Uwe mentioned "Quad Tree or Trie" -- the big difference I see is that tiles or grids have sizes that are defined independent of the data. Quadtree, RTree, etc typically resize themselves as data is added. I like "Tile", "TilePlotter", "FindBestTile", etc best. Grid also works, but seems to refer to the whole system rather then the cell. ryan On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Simon Willnauer wrote: > I would extremely prefer a common well know name instead of Cartensian > tiers. While the API is still in flux changing the name is not that > much of a deal either. Either grid or tiles is fine for me though > while I would prefer the most common of the two - grid seems to be the > better choice though. Yet, should we stick to Cartesian?! > > simon > > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Grant Ingersoll > wrote: >> As some of you may know, I've been working pretty heavily on >> spatial stuff lately. One of the things that has bothered me for a >> while is the use of the terminology: cartesian tiers. The thing >> is, I can't find any reference to such a thing in any place other >> than Local Lucene and Patrick's white paper on it. Most GIS >> systems seem to either talk about grids or tiles when describing >> this capability. >> >> Do you think it is worth a name change? This is about to get baked >> into Solr and I would really prefer we choose names that the rest >> of the world seems to understand. >> >> Thanks, >> Grant