From general-return-1920-apmail-lucene-general-archive=lucene.apache.org@lucene.apache.org Tue Dec 29 21:00:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 88642 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2009 21:00:35 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Dec 2009 21:00:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 64801 invoked by uid 500); 29 Dec 2009 21:00:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 64720 invoked by uid 500); 29 Dec 2009 21:00:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 64710 invoked by uid 99); 29 Dec 2009 21:00:34 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:00:34 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of gsiasf@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.192 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.192] (HELO mail-yx0-f192.google.com) (209.85.210.192) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 21:00:24 +0000 Received: by yxe30 with SMTP id 30so13095523yxe.29 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:00:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to:x-mailer; bh=LeRJdhDe5Y6m6jHECWByOEhNCPP6F/rk9aa6KhOsDFc=; b=f1ag0Vocp8iKPxmr4wAaAEBafU5OJ3m5d7XiZRo1F0oSl7uTsQFPXXV88KLTMalq4u z5srOTYParOPSHmM5DAPmjYsqytYDNNe85YzJ67ttl3Xfg2BObGgczL83uzWS5zaHEgX exSGRpoKaNDTu/XN2Joh5N1OWfWcjuyoufPw4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=iibbqx2wjzDFzoKTpw9LtxNdgGNvedEzZumoU24Dx+X/LK3cYmWL0IgIbOf37tVRPc 7U1P1lAVOL/nCXL58aW/lXQ8EfKvdJRZJNzCejOK0LVHk6T3apRDGyQ9krxdn0qGHZwH P1iHEPg6QHD2ilKCo7IfxB06ukFUZj14DYf/M= Received: by 10.150.117.35 with SMTP id p35mr23091815ybc.210.1262120403856; Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.0.15? (adsl-065-013-152-164.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net [65.13.152.164]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 35sm5216736yxh.33.2009.12.29.13.00.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:00:02 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: [spatial] Cartesian "Tiers" nomenclature From: Grant Ingersoll In-Reply-To: <1e33aedb0912291114y75010ac5mf6d3813196346d6e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:00:01 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1e33aedb0912282125k2f6dc673u98584f8ea24854c3@mail.gmail.com> <1e33aedb0912282349y48628cb8q7ddf9e24d4ad1d77@mail.gmail.com> <24ED15CB-2E08-40E8-BBF7-7ABA758AEABF@apache.org> <1e33aedb0912290854je7e6734m4f8d2d04acd44fba@mail.gmail.com> <20091229183211.GA8740@rectangular.com> <1e33aedb0912291114y75010ac5mf6d3813196346d6e@mail.gmail.com> To: general@lucene.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Dec 29, 2009, at 2:14 PM, patrick o'leary wrote: >>=20 >> You probably mean that to be derogatory, but it's related and not in = a bad >> way. This is about effective communication, which marketing people >> understand. >=20 >=20 > Hence the term spatial-luence, or as it was originally called = locallucene- > We are discussing an internal component, where folks want to change = the name > of the methodology of how it works. >=20 > To me it's like renaming the crank shaft in a car to the Spinning = Wheel > Turner. >=20 I totally understand where cartesian tier comes from and I get the math = and all the explanation. It's a perfectly reasonable name and I don't = have anything against it as far as the meaning it invokes. My only = issue is that I can't find a single reference to that phrase outside of = Local Lucene whereas I can find lots of references to the concept under = names like: map tiles, map grids, spatial tiles, or just plain = tiles/grids. That doesn't mean cartesian tiers isn't a better = description and that if Lucene was the first to implement such a thing = we wouldn't even be having this conversation. But the fact is, we're = not the first and it appears to me like the majority of people out their = use grid/tiles to describe this concept, for better or worse.=