Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 4804 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2009 16:07:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Mar 2009 16:07:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 32598 invoked by uid 500); 6 Mar 2009 16:07:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-general-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 32126 invoked by uid 500); 6 Mar 2009 16:07:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 32115 invoked by uid 99); 6 Mar 2009 16:07:08 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:07:08 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.8 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [128.101.190.97] (HELO mail.msi.umn.edu) (128.101.190.97) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:06:58 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.msi.umn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF3014012281 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:06:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.msi.umn.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (stork.msi.umn.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05477-09 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:06:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from [128.101.190.110] (dewpoint.msi.umn.edu [128.101.190.110]) by mail.msi.umn.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2E214011D0C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:06:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49B14A0C.3010101@peknet.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:06:36 -0600 From: Peter Karman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@lucene.apache.org Subject: re: [DISCUSS] Archive Lucy X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at msi.umn.edu X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Grant wrote: Therefore, it is with some hesitation that I suggest we mothball Lucy. Mostly, I hesitate, because I hate to see any project be archived on the hope that someone will come in and pick it up. However, I just don't see that happening. If Marvin wishes to resurrect it, he can donate KS (or whatever core part of it is Lucy) and go through incubation and prove there is a community and then we can turn it back on. Hi Grant, I just subscribed to this list because I saw your post to the lucy-dev list, where I have been subscribed since the project started. Thanks for initiating this conversation. It's true that Lucy still has no code. I am seeing at least a half-dozen daily commits to KS svn however, and I know that Marvin still plans to donate the core C pieces of that project to Lucy. KS has gained a lot of traction in the Perl user community, even if the number of committers is low (e.g., I have a commit bit on KS svn but haven't contributed much in the last year). So I would hate to see the idea of Lucy mothballed. Whether KS still bears enough resemblance to Lucene to be called a 'loose port' is probably debate-able, and so for reasons of [political] identity perhaps it doesn't belong under the Lucene umbrella anymore. But I know the cross-fertilization of ideas between the Lucene and KS developers has been significant, and the idea of a core C IR library with the features that KS has is very appealing (at least to me). I'll leave it to Marvin to comment on whether he's ready to commit code to Lucy and/or if that's still the appropriate vehicle for his vision. pek -- Peter Karman . peter@peknet.com . http://peknet.com/