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From Ryan McKinley <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Build/deploy Maven artifacts outside of Lucene/Solr
Date Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:15:47 GMT
I agree with David.  The maven error was not earth shattering --
working within the PMC was a good thing for the community at large.
We made the requested changes within a few days now things are better.
 Imagining a parallel world where the PMC was not involved turns out
much worse for many users.

-1 to remove maven support from the pseudo-non-official build

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Dawid Weiss
<> wrote:
>> But in thinking it over, and avoiding rehashing all the technical
>> details, what bothers me most about what happened is that the Lucene
>> PMC is/was held accountable for "having released code in another
>> project's namespace", yet, none of us realized we had done so.  We are
> I don't know how maven is of relevance here. Yes, maven repositories
> will last forever but it's no different than the release of binary
> packages that contained modified binaries of another Apache project
> (they shouldn't be re-released and once released, they'll have the
> life of their own). To me it's the same thing from technical and moral
> point of view -- nothing connected to maven.
>> I think that's bad: I'm not comfortable being held accountable for
>> something I don't understand.
> That's taking things too seriously I think. Nobody in the maven
> community will blink an eye at this...
>> their sources like that; I had no idea we were doing so.  Ignorance is
>> not an excuse and really the Lucene PMC is/was negligent...
> ...and I don't see negligence here. We were not aware this can raise
> legal problems from the board, were we? Steven may disagree but I
> still fail to find something offensive in publishing an artefact in
> the same Java package namespace but _with a different group/artefact
> ID_. Yes, ok -- there is a possibility of a package class clashes with
> official releases (and it's bad) but this isn't like we just sneakily
> published commons-csv under their own group/artefact ID to confuse
> people.
>> I think, to fix this, we (the Apache Lucene PMC) should stop
>> officially posting artifacts to Maven ourselves.  I think it's great
> I'm -1 to this. Many people use maven, we have maven experts as
> committers... I don't see an issue here.
> Dawid
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