Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-lucene-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99F359904 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25853 invoked by uid 500); 19 Mar 2012 19:29:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-dev-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 25793 invoked by uid 500); 19 Mar 2012 19:29:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 25786 invoked by uid 99); 19 Mar 2012 19:29:18 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:29:18 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.210.48] (HELO mail-pz0-f48.google.com) (209.85.210.48) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:29:09 +0000 Received: by dadp13 with SMTP id p13so11110663dad.35 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:28:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=q2jLOr7Hrr7LRe2DgovClg0RybWoCBKKBIthwpxgMRc=; b=D79ZNxcEcDh+pk+MyzQUb6JdhaLg6s3SsQF6+6dwL75acYuhPxs6ddvmp0UH0tlcYn 1yXH7XSLuzZo3Wyxjlcd6VdgUkjjgiGKU/NPtX15Qqd7t8uGlHGoDcXG0kncCTChk+Ph U/fYd9cf/A5xJ7ETGcxdI3HYcoqnuGRlYfnqqzIueEyDrBWoB1vjJzx+ctIhvEy4zfbA GHvDpGA9sY9Gr+NGBk7s/svIjqW0sMWmEMyUw/FHGYgT5uuA9OaEPKbk8qTW0XI3eQ9t tjEnh9ckpM0aoKb/V1gFq6fNCYSeNqU+weHlgzELMPg4tCxrt3J73ITgZbNDtVq1U97s 8EUg== Received: by 10.68.192.36 with SMTP id hd4mr16370814pbc.54.1332185327691; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bester.local ([65.78.136.75]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r6sm11949966pbq.56.2012.03.19.12.28.45 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Hostetter To: Lucene Dev Subject: Re: start being more official/vocal about "Wiki errata" pages for release notes? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm00x7DOInRdPDgvglQKn6WRFvW19fIVMMAtlX5DkLHTTv3MB0xc2KWn02p8qhZHrgkkh3a X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org : I don't think we should really set ourselves up for failure. Why can't : we document the features in the release up-front and put time into : trying to make it readable and concise, its going to be put on the : website as well as sent via email to a ton of people, and maybe : copy-pasted in blogs etc. Making it "live" won't fix those problems. I'm not saying it will, i'm saying "mistakes happen, so let's prepare for the possibility that they happen, and include in the releases a link to an Errata for CHANGES.txt and README.txt" : Its pretty relevant. What i'm saying the point of these pages is so : the RM can type in TO: announce@, general@, and press ctrl-A, ctrl-C, Ok, forget the fucking ReleaseNotes pages -- they can stay exactly as they are, the purpose can remain exactly the same, and nothing i'm proposing has to involve them in any way. My suggestion to re-use/rename those pages was simply one of minimizing duplication of content on the wiki as a whole -- i'm sorry for muddling the issue, forget i ever mentioned anything about changing ReleaseNotes36 at all. The crux of my suggestion was, and still is... : Something we've done on the Solr wiki since day one was have a wiki page : dedicated to each of the minor releases .. that lists info about the : develompent of any releases that haven't happened yet, and important : notes about any releases that have (recently we've started including a : copy of hte release announcement)... ... : ... But over time, they've also served as psuedo-errata pages : in the rare case where something is overlooked in the release notes of a : release, for example... : : https://wiki.apache.org/solr/Solr1.4 ... : I think it would be a good idea to formalize this idea and start promoting : these type of pages for both Solr and Core, so that the top of README.txt and : CHANGES.txt for all of our future releases contained verbage such as... : : >> More information about this release, including any errata related to the : >> release notes, upgrade instructions, or other changes can be found online : >> at... : >> https://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/Lucene3.6 : ...or... : >> https://wiki.apache.org/solr/Solr3.6 ...these pages would be entirely for end users, to consult when installing a release, in case there are any Errata information they should be aware of. -Hoss --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org