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From "Simon Willnauer (JIRA)" <>
Subject [jira] Commented: (LUCENE-2504) sorting performance regression
Date Tue, 14 Sep 2010 13:24:33 GMT


Simon Willnauer commented on LUCENE-2504:

bq. I think we all owe it to ourselves to stop equating java with Sun/Oracle, if Java stays
with Oracle its pretty obvious the language (is) will die anyway.
I agree with robert that we should stop comparing against sun jvms all the time and turn everything
upside-down specializing code here and there or go one step further and generate C++ code.
Dude who is gonna maintain the compatibility to Java-Only environments? I could imagine that
we have something which is super special purpose like mike did with DirectNIOFSDirectory 
to work around unexposed methods like fadvice. 

I think that code specializations of very "hot" part of lucene are ok and we should follow
that way like we did at some places but it already make things very complicated to follow.
Without the knowledge of a committer or a person actively following that development it is
extremely difficult to comprehend design decisions.

I would rather like the idea to put effort in stuff like harmony and make code we can control
perform better that introducing a preprocessor which generates code for a JVM owned by a company.
Would it make way more sense to push OSS JVMs than spending lots of time on investigating
on .NET as an alternative or C/C++ code generator? Before I would go the C++ path I'd rather
use Java to host a C core like lucy which brings you as close as it gets to the machine. 

bq. EG, see my post here:

interesting papers - seems we are touching the limits of Java though.

> sorting performance regression
> ------------------------------
>                 Key: LUCENE-2504
>                 URL:
>             Project: Lucene - Java
>          Issue Type: Bug
>    Affects Versions: 4.0
>            Reporter: Yonik Seeley
>             Fix For: 4.0
>         Attachments: LUCENE-2504.patch, LUCENE-2504.patch,
> sorting can be much slower on trunk than branch_3x

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