Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 70912 invoked from network); 26 May 2010 04:28:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 26 May 2010 04:28:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 87086 invoked by uid 500); 26 May 2010 04:28:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-dev-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 86812 invoked by uid 500); 26 May 2010 04:28:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 86802 invoked by uid 99); 26 May 2010 04:28:53 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 May 2010 04:28:53 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1465.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [140.211.11.22] (HELO thor.apache.org) (140.211.11.22) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 May 2010 04:28:52 +0000 Received: from thor (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thor.apache.org (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o4Q4SWsJ003584 for ; Wed, 26 May 2010 04:28:32 GMT Message-ID: <18545259.51631274848112706.JavaMail.jira@thor> Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 00:28:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert Muir (JIRA)" To: dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: [jira] Updated: (LUCENE-2458) queryparser makes all CJK queries phrase queries regardless of analyzer In-Reply-To: <9038604.10791273607741173.JavaMail.jira@thor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-JIRA-FingerPrint: 30527f35849b9dde25b450d4833f0394 [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2458?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Muir updated LUCENE-2458: -------------------------------- Summary: queryparser makes all CJK queries phrase queries regardless of analyzer (was: queryparser shouldn't generate phrasequeries based on term count) Description: The queryparser automatically makes *ALL* CJK, Thai, Lao, Myanmar, Tibetan, ... queries into phrase queries, even though you didn't ask for one, and there isn't a way to turn this off. This completely breaks lucene for these languages, as it treats all queries like 'grep'. Example: if you query for f:abcd with standardanalyzer, where a,b,c,d are chinese characters, you get a phrasequery of "a b c d". if you use cjk analyzer, its no better, its a phrasequery of "ab bc cd", and if you use smartchinese analyzer, you get a phrasequery like "ab cd". But the user didn't ask for one, and they cannot turn it off. The reason is that the code to form phrase queries is not internationally appropriate and assumes whitespace tokenization. If more than one token comes out of whitespace delimited text, its automatically a phrase query no matter what. The proposed patch fixes the core queryparser (with all backwards compat kept) to only form phrase queries when the double quote operator is used. Implementing subclasses can always extend the QP and auto-generate whatever kind of queries they want that might completely break search for languages they don't care about, but core general-purpose QPs should be language independent. was: The current method in the queryparser to generate phrasequeries is wrong: The Query Syntax documentation (http://lucene.apache.org/java/3_0_1/queryparsersyntax.html) states: {noformat} A Phrase is a group of words surrounded by double quotes such as "hello dolly". {noformat} But as we know, this isn't actually true. Instead the terms are first divided on whitespace, then the analyzer term count is used as some sort of "heuristic" to determine if its a phrase query or not. This assumption is a disaster for languages that don't use whitespace separation: CJK, compounding European languages like German, Finnish, etc. It also makes it difficult for people to use n-gram analysis techniques. In these cases you get bad relevance (MAP improves nearly *10x* if you use a PositionFilter at query-time to "turn this off" for chinese). For even english, this undocumented behavior is bad. Perhaps in some cases its being abused as some heuristic to "second guess" the tokenizer and piece back things it shouldn't have split, but for large collections, doing things like generating phrasequeries because StandardTokenizer split a compound on a dash can cause serious performance problems. Instead people should analyze their text with the appropriate methods, and QueryParser should only generate phrase queries when the syntax asks for one. The PositionFilter in contrib can be seen as a workaround, but its pretty obscure and people are not familiar with it. The result is we have bad out-of-box behavior for many languages, and bad performance for others on some inputs. I propose instead that we change the grammar to actually look for double quotes to determine when to generate a phrase query, consistent with the documentation. editing this issue to make it easier to understand. > queryparser makes all CJK queries phrase queries regardless of analyzer > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: LUCENE-2458 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2458 > Project: Lucene - Java > Issue Type: Bug > Components: QueryParser > Reporter: Robert Muir > Assignee: Robert Muir > Priority: Blocker > Fix For: 3.1, 4.0 > > Attachments: LUCENE-2458.patch, LUCENE-2458.patch, LUCENE-2458.patch > > > The queryparser automatically makes *ALL* CJK, Thai, Lao, Myanmar, Tibetan, ... queries into phrase queries, even though you didn't ask for one, and there isn't a way to turn this off. > This completely breaks lucene for these languages, as it treats all queries like 'grep'. > Example: if you query for f:abcd with standardanalyzer, where a,b,c,d are chinese characters, you get a phrasequery of "a b c d". if you use cjk analyzer, its no better, its a phrasequery of "ab bc cd", and if you use smartchinese analyzer, you get a phrasequery like "ab cd". But the user didn't ask for one, and they cannot turn it off. > The reason is that the code to form phrase queries is not internationally appropriate and assumes whitespace tokenization. If more than one token comes out of whitespace delimited text, its automatically a phrase query no matter what. > The proposed patch fixes the core queryparser (with all backwards compat kept) to only form phrase queries when the double quote operator is used. > Implementing subclasses can always extend the QP and auto-generate whatever kind of queries they want that might completely break search for languages they don't care about, but core general-purpose QPs should be language independent. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org