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From Earwin Burrfoot <ear...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Adding CLucene as a Lucene subproject
Date Wed, 26 May 2010 23:05:43 GMT
I wonder, what's going to be the relationship between this and Lucy?
Also, how do both of them compare to Sphinx?

2010/5/27 Itamar Syn-Hershko <itamar@code972.com>:
> Ryan, thanks. I understand, and obviously if the PMC will think the same
> this is what we'll be doing.
>
> Unfortunately, I haven't heard from the PMC yet, and I'm not sure where this
> is going exactly. If the proposal is what keeping this from being discussed,
> do let me know. Otherwise, I'm hoping someone with good knowledge of this
> process could respond and help us move this forward. I can be contacted
> privately if needed.
>
> Itamar.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan McKinley [mailto:ryantxu@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:31 AM
> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Adding CLucene as a Lucene subproject
>
> Thanks Itamar-
>
> Apologies since the last email is not very clear...   Not speaking as
> the PMC, my feeling is that for this an incubation process will be
> needed.  With Apache, the projects are more about the community then
> the code -- since there exists a CLucene community with its own
> culture etc, i think the incubation process makes sense (that is the
> whole point of the incubator - in my opinion)  For incubation, CLucene
> would need a champion
>
> again, just throwing it out there, and *not* speaking as the PMC.
>
> ryan
>
>
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Itamar Syn-Hershko <itamar@code972.com>
> wrote:
>> Ryan,
>>
>> I'm not familiar with the Apache way of doing things. It is my
> understanding
>> that if the invitation is initiated by the PMC itself, no incubation
> process
>> nor a champion are required. Considering CLucene's age and proven
> stability,
>> I was hoping we could go that route. If we need a PMC member as a
> champion,
>> may this be a call for one.
>>
>> Considering CLucene is targetting a very different users base than Lucene
>> is, I don't see how it can possibly be a distraction. On the countrary -
>> many optimizations done in CLucene back in the old days were later adapted
>> by Lucene itself, and I'm sure this will continue. Also, I believe CLucene
>> has a great part in promoting Lucene, especially among non-Java
> developers.
>> So, I don't see how CLucene is a moot point more than Lucene.Net for
> example
>> has ever been.
>>
>> I would love to be working with anyone to get this process properly
> defined
>> and started. A proposal is being worked on.
>>
>> Itamar.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ryan McKinley [mailto:ryantxu@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:51 PM
>> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Adding CLucene as a Lucene subproject
>>
>> Having skimmed most of the thread...
>>
>> It seems the question of if CLucene should be a sub-project may be
> premature
>> considering that it would really need someone in the PMC to champion it --
>> do the real work to make it happen.
>>
>> I can see many ways this could be a good addition to lucene land, I can
> also
>> see many ways that it may just be a distraction.  Unless someone actually
>> can work with them, it is a moot point.
>>
>> ryan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Itamar Syn-Hershko <itamar@code972.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Following a recent discussion with Otis, I would like to request for
>>> the CLucene project to join the ASF, as a sub-project of Lucene.
>>>
>>> CLucene is an important port of Lucene, and is being used very widely
>>> for a few years now. The project aims to be attractive to people who
>>> like to use Lucene but wants to increase performance or reduce the
>>> overheads of using a JVM, for C++ developers; and eventually for users
>>> of various high-level or scripting languages.
>>>
>>> We are currently hosting on SourceForge; our latest release conforms
>>> to Java Lucene 1.9.1, but the master branch in our git repository
>>> works with 2.3.2 indexes, and is being worked on for a while now. More
>>> info is available in our website (http://clucene.sourceforge.net/) and
>>> project page (https://sourceforge.net/projects/clucene/).
>>>
>>> CLucene is currently released under the LGPL and the Apache 2.0
>>> licenses (dual). If this needs changing, we will need some legal help
>>> to do that correctly.
>>>
>>> Please advise on how to pursue this, and what needs to be done from our
>> end.
>>> This move is very important to us, and could also benefit the Lucene
>>> community. Hopefully, we could make this happen.
>>>
>>> Itamar.
>>
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