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Subject: Re: Proposal about Version API "relaxation"
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:01:04 -0400
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On Apr 13, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Shai Erera wrote:
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> And I guess that what bothers me the most is that it feels to me like =
we're trying to protect people from stuff we haven't yet received =
complaints on (at least none that I'm aware of),

I think we have, they just aren't explicitly stated b/c most users don't =
necessarily grasp the subtleties of tokens at this level.  We have long =
talked and had questions about how to handle bug fixes in Analyzers.

> while we're hurting the programming experience of others ... almost =
recklessly.

Wearing my trainer hat as someone who has to explain this stuff to =
newbies on a regular basis, I agree, I think VERSION does hurt the =
programming experience (although, I don't agree it is even close to =
reckless) at least initially and the issue was more easily dealt with =
through CHANGES.txt and letting people know there is a bug fix that will =
require re-indexing.  That being said, I'm not sure I like the static =
proposal.   Separating out the analyzers more seems good on paper and =
versioning individual ones somehow.

-Grant=

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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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"><br><div><div>On Apr 13, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Shai Erera =
wrote:</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang=3D"EN-US"><font =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#000000"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: =
medium;"><br></span></font>And I guess that what bothers me the most is =
that it feels to me like we're trying to protect people from stuff we =
haven't yet received complaints on (at least none that I'm aware =
of),</span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think we have, they =
just aren't explicitly stated b/c most users don't necessarily grasp the =
subtleties of tokens at this level. &nbsp;We have long talked and had =
questions about how to handle bug fixes in =
Analyzers.</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang=3D"EN-US"> =
while we're hurting the programming experience of others ... almost =
recklessly.</span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wearing my =
trainer hat as someone who has to explain this stuff to newbies on a =
regular basis, I agree, I think VERSION does hurt the programming =
experience (although, I don't agree it is even close to reckless) at =
least initially and the issue was more easily dealt with through =
CHANGES.txt and letting people know there is a bug fix that will require =
re-indexing. &nbsp;That being said, I'm not sure I like the static =
proposal. &nbsp; Separating out the analyzers more seems good on paper =
and versioning individual ones =
somehow.</div><div><br></div><div>-Grant</div></div></body></html>=

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