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From Shai Erera <>
Subject Re: Proposed: New logged IRC channel: #lucene_dev
Date Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:03:13 GMT
I personally prefer that discussions happen on the list/JIRA. It is ok if
some discussions outside these two come in to list/JIRA as a thread/issue.
Such discussions are not limited to only IRC, but also a phone call, email,
ApacheCon etc. However once this has been raised w/ the community, then any
further discussion needs to happen there, for everybody to read/comment.

Emails/JIRA overcome time zone differences. Also if things are being
discussed on both (IRC and JIRA for example), some of the data is lost, or
not coherent with what's being said on the other medium. I don't think that
logging the IRC channel will do any good, because when I wake up in the
morning and check the new emails I've received, I wouldn't know about all
those IRC discussions ... and summary emails are not too good (nor they are
bad, they are better than nothing) IMO.

I believe though that I'm on the minority side on this ... hope I'm wrong.


On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Steven A Rowe <> wrote:

> As I mentioned in another thread on this list, I'm interested in setting up
> a permanent, linkable-to archive (a.k.a. log) for the lucene IRC channel.
> On #lucene, some devs don't want to be logged, and so will not participate
> on a logged IRC channel.  Other devs want logging, to be able to point to
> for background discussion, and also to provide transparency for those who
> don't participate regularly.
> In an attempt to satisfy both camps, it was suggested that a new logged
> channel be set up.  The name #lucene_dev was suggested, in part because this
> name indicates separating user questions, which don't really need to be
> logged, from development, in the same way that the Lucene mailing lists are
> now separated.
> Note that this is not an official proposal/vote or anything like that.  I'm
> just looking for comments that would change or stop this proposal from being
> implemented.
> I should say that when I asked about logging #lucene, I didn't anticipate
> that it would be controversial (I've always thought that naïveté is my best
> feature ;) ).  I'm unhappy that creating yet another place to discuss Lucene
> could fracture the community.  So I'm not certain that setting up a logged
> #lucene_dev is the right way to go.
> Please let me know what you think.
> Thanks,
> Steve
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