Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-java-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 9903 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2009 21:46:39 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 2009 21:46:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 73456 invoked by uid 500); 13 Apr 2009 21:46:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-java-dev-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 73355 invoked by uid 500); 13 Apr 2009 21:46:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact java-dev-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list java-dev@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 73347 invoked by uid 99); 13 Apr 2009 21:46:38 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:46:38 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2000.0 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [140.211.11.140] (HELO brutus.apache.org) (140.211.11.140) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:46:36 +0000 Received: from brutus (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by brutus.apache.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2CC029A0014 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1982730652.1239659174993.JavaMail.jira@brutus> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:46:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael McCandless (JIRA)" To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: [jira] Commented: (LUCENE-1597) New Document and Field API In-Reply-To: <1750230243.1239576674914.JavaMail.jira@brutus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-JIRA-FingerPrint: 30527f35849b9dde25b450d4833f0394 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1597?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12698560#action_12698560 ] Michael McCandless commented on LUCENE-1597: -------------------------------------------- This looks great! Many random thoughts... This is largely a cleaner restructuring of what's already held in *Field, cutting over to AttributeSource so that we gain extensibility to other attrs people would want to store. It also decouples type from value, which is great. It's also quite different from Lucy/KS's approach which is to use carefully thought out subclasses to represent the type hierarchy. Ie Lucy/KS uses "the language" (classes/subclasses) to express things, and this approach uses AttributeSource (which is sort of our workaround for Java not allowing multiple inheritance). This approach subdivides a type into N fully orthogonal attributes, so a type is some combination of configured instances of these attributes. This actually mirrors what Field does today (in that we have Field.Store.X, Field.Index.X, Field.TermVector.X). This can sometimes be awkward because attributes are "flat", eg TermVectorAttribute only makes sense for indexed fields, or for a BinaryFieldValue most attributes are not allowed. We don't get strong type checking of such "mistakes", vs KS/Lucy's approach. How would you turn on/off [future] CSF storage? A separate attr? A boolean on StoreAttribute? NumericFieldAttribute seems awkward (one shouldn't have to turn on/off zero padding, trie; or rather it's better to operate in "use cases" like "I want to do range filtering" or "I want to sort"). Seems like maybe we need a SortAttribute and RangeFilterAttribute (or... something). Presumably would could make an "iterate over all fields" utility so that a consumer of document wouldn't have to differentiate b/w fixed & variable fields. In this model, can one re-use FieldValue for maximizing indexing throughput? Seems like yes? StoredFieldsWriter is needing to do instanceof checks & casting, which'd be nice to [somehow] avoid. It'd be great to land this before 2.9 (and cut back to Java 1.4) but maybe that's too ambitious. Should we make "get me your TokenStream" (get/setAnalyzer) a part of IndexAttribute? Can a single FieldDescriptor be shared among many fields? Seems like we'd have to take name out of FieldDescriptor (I don't think the name should be in FieldDescriptor, anyway). Also how would we correspondingly fix FieldInfos to "generically" store & merge attribute values? (EG TermVectorAttribute's isStoreOffsets/Positions get "merged" and changed whenever segments are merged, or docs are added to RAM buffer). Seems like each attribute needs a write/read/merge? One thing I like about DocumentDescriptor is it can be the basis for app-level schema... we could eventually allows serialize/deserialize (eg XML or JSON) of the doc DocumentDescriptor. In fact wouldn't FieldInfos simply store a DocumentDescriptor (having been merged from all the docs in that segment)? It also may enable some speedups during indexing eg I can imagine (future) having an indexing chain that's provided the DocumentDescriptor it will handle, up front. Can we maybe rename Descriptor -> Type? Eg FieldDescriptor -> FieldType? > New Document and Field API > -------------------------- > > Key: LUCENE-1597 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-1597 > Project: Lucene - Java > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: Index > Reporter: Michael Busch > Priority: Minor > Attachments: lucene-new-doc-api.patch > > > This is a super rough prototype of how a new document API could look like. It's basically what I came up with during a long flight across the Atlantic :) > It is not integrated with anything yet (like IndexWriter, DocumentsWriter, etc.) and heavily uses Java 1.5 features, such as generics and annotations. > The general idea sounds similar to what Marvin is doing in KS, which I found out by reading Mike's comments on LUCENE-831, I haven't looked at the KS API myself yet. > Main ideas: > - separate a field's value from its configuration; therefore this patch introduces two classes: FieldDescriptor and FieldValue > - I was thinking that in most cases the documents people add to a Lucene index look alike, i.e. they contain mostly the same fields with the same settings. Yet, for every field instance the DocumentsWriter checks the settings and calls the right consumers, which themselves check settings and return true or false, indicating whether or not they want to do something with that field or not. So I was thinking we could design the document API similar to the Class<->Object concept of OO-languages. There a class is a blueprint (as everyone knows :) ), and an object is one instance of it. So in this patch I introduced a class called DocumentDescriptor, which contains all FieldDescriptors with the field settings. This descriptor is given to the consumer (IndexWriter) once in the constructor. Then the Document "instances" are created and added via addDocument(). > - A Document instance allows adding "variable fields" in addition to the "fixed fields" the DocumentDescriptor contains. For these fields the consumers have to check the field settings for every document instance (like with the old document API). This is for maintaining Lucene's flexibility that everyone loves. > - Disregard the changes to AttributeSource for now. The code that's worth looking at is contained in a new package "newdoc". > Again, this is not a "real" patch, but rather a demo of how a new API could roughly work. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: java-dev-help@lucene.apache.org