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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:17:16 +0000 (GMT)
From: mark harwood <markharw00d@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: LIA2 on l.a.o/java OK?
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I'm OK with LIA2 on the front page - as Erik suggests it does help lend cre=
dibility to a project. =0AI encounter organisations who are nervous about b=
uying into an open-source solution and having books up there on the home pa=
ge immediately helps establish the following:=0A=0A1) The APIs are stable e=
nough to warrant published documentation=0A2) There is a reasonable level o=
f adoption in the market=0A3) There is material available to support new us=
ers if they get stuck=0A=0A>>When new books focused exclusively on Lucene e=
merge they should get the same treatment, in my opinion.=0A=0ASo the test-c=
ase for this statement would be - what if there was a terrible book publish=
ed? I can't see it happening myself but you have to ask if there is some in=
ferred recommendation of quality on any links we provide.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=
=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Otis Gospodnetic <otis_gospodnetic@y=
ahoo.com>=0ATo: java-dev@lucene.apache.org=0ASent: Friday, 20 February, 200=
9 13:50:51=0ASubject: Re: LIA2 on l.a.o/java OK?=0A=0A=0AI think Erik put i=
t well.  I'd agree with that thinking even if I were not the co-author.  Li=
sting LIA2 on the Wiki is good (and done), but my fear is that only some pe=
ople will find it there.  I think showing LIA2 on the main page and making =
it a bit stickier than a regular news item is a way to help Lucene users fi=
nd it quickly.  When new books focused exclusively on Lucene emerge they sh=
ould get the same treatment, in my opinion.=0A=0AOtis=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Orig=
inal Message ----=0A> From: Erik Hatcher <erik@ehatchersolutions.com>=0A> T=
o: java-dev@lucene.apache.org=0A> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:27:40 P=
M=0A> Subject: Re: LIA2 on l.a.o/java OK?=0A> =0A> On Feb 20, 2009, at 6:56=
 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:=0A> > Isn't that what http://wiki.apache.org/lu=
cene-java/Resources is for?  I like =0A> LIA as much as the next person,  b=
ut if we do it for LIA2 then it opens the door =0A> for others =0A> (http:/=
/www.amazon.com/s/ref=3Dnb_ss_gw?url=3Dsearch-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=3D=
Lucene&x=3D0&y=3D0) =0A> which will likely clutter the page quite a bit.=0A=
> =0A> There is precedent.  Other books do make it to Apache sites.  iBatis=
 has the =0A> Manning cover in the lower-left sidebar: .  Wicket =0A> has t=
hree big book covers: .  Struts more subtly: =0A> .  ActiveMQ has a news bl=
urb with big book cover: =0A> =0A> =0A> As for other books making it there.=
.. that'd be fine by me to have a few book =0A> covers shown on the home pa=
ge.  I imagine we won't hear other authors even =0A> asking.=0A> =0A> >  I =
just don't think we can imply that LIA2 is the "official book on Lucene".=
=0A> =0A> It's the only book dedicated exclusively to Lucene that I'm aware=
 of, and all of =0A> the co-authors are committers/PMC members and active m=
embers of the community.  =0A> It's about as "official" as it gets.=0A> =0A=
> Books on open source projects lend a great deal of credibility and I've s=
een =0A> first hand that they are used as deciding factors when choosing a =
technology.  A =0A> book means it is mature and has a good following.=0A> =
=0A> Personal bias noted - I support putting it on the home page, and also =
news =0A> blurbs when there is activity, like when it goes to print and is =
available in =0A> hardcopy.=0A> =0A>     Erik=0A> =0A> =0A> ---------------=
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