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From mark harwood <markharw...@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject Re: LIA2 on l.a.o/java OK?
Date Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:17:16 GMT

I'm OK with LIA2 on the front page - as Erik suggests it does help lend credibility to a project.

I encounter organisations who are nervous about buying into an open-source solution and having
books up there on the home page immediately helps establish the following:

1) The APIs are stable enough to warrant published documentation
2) There is a reasonable level of adoption in the market
3) There is material available to support new users if they get stuck

>>When new books focused exclusively on Lucene emerge they should get the same treatment,
in my opinion.

So the test-case for this statement would be - what if there was a terrible book published?
I can't see it happening myself but you have to ask if there is some inferred recommendation
of quality on any links we provide.






----- Original Message ----
From: Otis Gospodnetic <otis_gospodnetic@yahoo.com>
To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org
Sent: Friday, 20 February, 2009 13:50:51
Subject: Re: LIA2 on l.a.o/java OK?


I think Erik put it well.  I'd agree with that thinking even if I were not the co-author.
 Listing LIA2 on the Wiki is good (and done), but my fear is that only some people will find
it there.  I think showing LIA2 on the main page and making it a bit stickier than a regular
news item is a way to help Lucene users find it quickly.  When new books focused exclusively
on Lucene emerge they should get the same treatment, in my opinion.

Otis



----- Original Message ----
> From: Erik Hatcher <erik@ehatchersolutions.com>
> To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org
> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:27:40 PM
> Subject: Re: LIA2 on l.a.o/java OK?
> 
> On Feb 20, 2009, at 6:56 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
> > Isn't that what http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/Resources is for?  I like 
> LIA as much as the next person,  but if we do it for LIA2 then it opens the door 
> for others 
> (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Lucene&x=0&y=0)

> which will likely clutter the page quite a bit.
> 
> There is precedent.  Other books do make it to Apache sites.  iBatis has the 
> Manning cover in the lower-left sidebar: .  Wicket 
> has three big book covers: .  Struts more subtly: 
> .  ActiveMQ has a news blurb with big book cover: 
> 
> 
> As for other books making it there... that'd be fine by me to have a few book 
> covers shown on the home page.  I imagine we won't hear other authors even 
> asking.
> 
> >  I just don't think we can imply that LIA2 is the "official book on Lucene".
> 
> It's the only book dedicated exclusively to Lucene that I'm aware of, and all of 
> the co-authors are committers/PMC members and active members of the community.  
> It's about as "official" as it gets.
> 
> Books on open source projects lend a great deal of credibility and I've seen 
> first hand that they are used as deciding factors when choosing a technology.  A 
> book means it is mature and has a good following.
> 
> Personal bias noted - I support putting it on the home page, and also news 
> blurbs when there is activity, like when it goes to print and is available in 
> hardcopy.
> 
>     Erik
> 
> 
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