Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-java-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 29489 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2007 02:01:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 2007 02:01:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 3991 invoked by uid 500); 11 Apr 2007 02:01:13 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-lucene-java-dev-archive@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 3343 invoked by uid 500); 11 Apr 2007 02:01:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact java-dev-help@lucene.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list java-dev@lucene.apache.org Received: (qmail 3328 invoked by uid 99); 11 Apr 2007 02:01:11 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:01:11 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [206.190.38.242] (HELO web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com) (206.190.38.242) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:01:04 -0700 Received: (qmail 76278 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Apr 2007 02:00:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=MEHqdXOafI+pO7R8wByyp6dd9CAj0rzHE2j0/Gvc1bylwSbggutMehC2dHBGfCo/8c9BbpF4PJjGth650JYqSwldVJ5vUjvP5wVPNyv0lCaJrE0zXpyVfjinfXkwGUaVJzF5F+fiTZpFYGTHZXoFablhsQ/B76BW4SybKSrJKds=; X-YMail-OSG: 6Cdw5HMVM1nbRxCQbRUFpfeVgzPruDaI8lDOla9VBI95G9nVFdItZuLg5GdiVLaWLpoyO_8O7xmaJNzYjLuvfhQyC2TaqihuNybEtQUxZXWJ4.Xnsc8- Received: from [72.231.8.153] by web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:00:42 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/478 YahooMailWebService/0.7.41.10 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Otis Gospodnetic Subject: Re: Lucene Branding: the TLP, and "Lucene Java" To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii Message-ID: <574054.75451.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org For some reason I've never been confused by the naming. I think in my mind and when I talk about this, I say "Lucene project" when I mean the TLP, and Lucene when I talk about the original Lucene. Though I'd personally be said to see the original Lucene get renamed now, I'm open. :) I agree about Grant about where we are going with Lucene TLP, and I'm very much looking forward to new things that will grow under the Lucene name. Otis . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Simpy -- http://www.simpy.com/ - Tag - Search - Share ----- Original Message ---- From: Grant Ingersoll To: java-dev@lucene.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:13:36 PM Subject: Re: Lucene Branding: the TLP, and "Lucene Java" No, you are not the only one... Many a sleepless night spent on it... :-) I usually try to refer to it as Lucene Java, but old habits die hard and often times I just call it Lucene. I think the name has a good brand at this point and is very strongly associated w/ the Java library. I seem to recall when they were forming the TLP, that the original proposal was search.a.o, but then changed b/c the ASF didn't like generic names (or at least that is how I recall it.) And, of course, with Hadoop and the potential for Tika/Lius, it isn't just search anymore. I have often thought about an Apache "Text" project, that could eventually hold a whole family of text based tools like Lucene, Tika, Hadoop, Solr, etc. plus things like part of speech taggers, clustering/classification algorithms, UIMA, etc. all under one roof. But that is just my two cents and I don't know if it fits with what other people have in mind. There are a lot of OSS tools out there for these things, but none bring together a whole suite under a brand like Apache. -Grant On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:41 PM, Chris Hostetter wrote: > > I was motivated to start this thread by LUCENE-860, but it's been > in the > back of my mind for a while. > > As the Lucene Top Level Project grows and get's more Sub-Projects, I > (personally) have been finding it hard in email/documentation/ > discussion > to clarify when people are refering to the "Lucene" Top Level Project > versus the "Lucene" java project. I can't help but wonder if the TLP > should have a different name, or if "Lucene Java" should taken on a > more > specific name that doesn't just sound like a name followed a > langauge -- > ie: JLucene, LuceneJ ... anything that makes it more clear that > when the > word "Lucene" is used it's talking about the broder Top Level project > address all aspects of OSS Search Software. > > Am I the only one that wonders about this as time goes on? > > -Hoss > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: java-dev-help@lucene.apache.org > -------------------------- Grant Ingersoll Center for Natural Language Processing http://www.cnlp.org Read the Lucene Java FAQ at http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-lucene/ LuceneFAQ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: java-dev-help@lucene.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: java-dev-help@lucene.apache.org